Calling Scottish Dwellers...

The Poll Tax! yes, people can't forget it and blame the 'effing' Tories and Margaret Thatcher. But of course why let the truth interfere with a good story?

Maggie Thatcher was against introducing it into Scotland the way it was. It was George Younger MP for Ayr, yes thats in Scotland, who pressed her to introduce it. Shafted by your own kind. Just like you were for the Highland Clearances, Culloden, blah, blah, etc, etc, ad nauseum. But why blame yourself when you can convince everybody to blame the English and the Tories?
 
Really tough to call - one thing is for sure the Yes vote will all be out to vote.

Voter apathy might yet have a big part to play in all this.

I reckon 57% No.
 
People have more to lose if they don't vote and the "yes" wins, so I would say the "No" vote getting 65% when the non vocal majority votes.
 
Eastsix said:
I reckon it will be very close and the losing side will demand a recount
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They're not allowed to - recounts are only for procedural reasons, not for close results
 
God knows how I'll sleep tonight. I read that Mr Salmond said he had a great nights sleep whilst I'm actually that concerned about all this I couldn't sleep at all. That didn't help with my mood when I discovered there was an issue with the car caused by the service yesterday.

I'm going for a 56% No vote.
 
Angie4m said:
I'm going for a 56% No vote.
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According to the BBC 4,285,323 people (97%) are registered to vote so how about 50.00001167% for 'Yes'... that's a clear and unambiguous mandate for independence, isn't it....

In issues of this importance a simple majority should never be enough, IMO massive change should require a minimum %age turnout of the eligible voters combined with something along the lines of a 60%+ vote in favour of the change
 
PerryGunn said:
Angie4m said:
I'm going for a 56% No vote.
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According to the BBC 4,285,323 people (97%) are registered to vote so how about 50.00001167% for 'Yes'... that's a clear and unambiguous mandate for independence, isn't it....

In issues of this importance a simple majority should never be enough, IMO massive change should require a minimum %age turnout of the eligible voters combined with something along the lines of a 60%+ vote in favour of the change
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Indeed. Well said, however given such a split it should never of got to this. They bang on about Norway and how they voted for independence but 99% of Norway at the time wanted it!

I do hope its a lot higher even towards the 70% mark but I'll not hold my breath on that one.
 
Ok, but if you are talking about a decision that affects the population should have a good majority vote, why would that not be the case for a trivial matter like going to war in Iraq for example which was decided by what, a handful of people or so?
 
PerryGunn said:
Eastsix said:
I reckon it will be very close and the losing side will demand a recount
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They're not allowed to - recounts are only for procedural reasons, not for close results
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Oh really? That's interesting. Wow, if it's as close as 51/49 then that WILL be controversially then!
 
pvr said:
Ok, but if you are talking about a decision that affects the population should have a good majority vote, why would that not be the case for a trivial matter like going to war in Iraq for example which was decided by what, a handful of people or so?
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You couldn't have a referendum on time-critical issues, they take too long to formulate and organise - elected governments have to do something to justify their existence...
 
Good time to gamble on currency.

If you believe No will win, bet on Sterling rising, if you think Yes will won, bet on Sterling falling tomorrow.
 
pvr said:
Good time to gamble on currency.

If you believe No will win, bet on Sterling rising, if you think Yes will won, bet on Sterling falling tomorrow.
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Might as well bet on the yes vote if you think it'll be yes, as big as 4/1 with some bookies.
 
Evening. When you hear different 'polls' being talked about and figures quoted for %No and %Yes, how do they collect these and how do you know it's a fair representation of the result to come??
 
Oakandacorns said:
Evening. When you hear different 'polls' being talked about and figures quoted for %No and %Yes, how do they collect these and how do you know it's a fair representation of the result to come??
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You don't know that its fair and it's only a small snap shot. So the poll two weeks ago which said it was 52% yes and 48% no was based on 1034 people of which the majority of the participants were unemployed, that makes a difference because they are more likely to vote for Yes and that's what the poll indicated. You can get a full breakdown of the demographic and number of people used. It's annoying as they do tend go brush over these stats.

I believe a lot of the polls have been conducted online and the people contacted are registered to vote in the UK and have been contacted 'randomly' and asked to take part. I've not heard of any poll that's involved more than 1800 people
 
Delighted to be United, YouGov poll is giving 56% for those who live in the real world and 46% for those who live 700 years in the past.
 
Geezah said:
Delighted to be United, YouGov poll is giving 56% for those who live in the real world and 46% for those who live 700 years in the past.
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Which was my guess earlier but I'll wait and see the outcome in the morning because a poll of 1700 people is still not enough to get a clear picture.
 
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