Would you change your vote ?

This sums it up very nicely

https://youtu.be/-IL2XwSkFJQ

What the Brexiteers do not want in those marginal voters allowed another chance to vote in a second referendum now that they’ve seen that the properganda spouted by the leave camp were lies, per the next one

https://youtu.be/MGwz-u5otzk

And sorry anybody that wants to leave on WTO rules has no understanding of the consequences thereof and the only reason any of the ERG advocate a no deal Brexit is as a negotiating tool against the EU.
 
The first link is very true alot of people are fed up of being stuffed by those in charge, the 2nd link is interesting but no counter point of view
 
jabber said:
The first link is very true alot of people are fed up of being stuffed by those in charge, the 2nd link is interesting but no counter point of view

The counter point is that he actually worked for the leave campaign or do you mean someone from the remain camp that’s changed their mind, in that being part of the EU isn’t the best deal going and who supports May’s fantastic one
 
sars said:
jabber said:
The first link is very true alot of people are fed up of being stuffed by those in charge, the 2nd link is interesting but no counter point of view


The counter point is that he actually worked for the leave campaign or do you mean someone from the remain camp that’s changed their mind, in that being part of the EU isn’t the best deal going and who supports May’s fantastic one

Neither just someone with who may have discussed the points he raised
 
I voted leave, but as the process has dragged on so long, I think it's probably only right that the public get a vote on the FINAL deal (if it comes to that).

99% of people I know who voted leave, voted that way due to immigration, which is pretty much what the entire leave campaign was based on.

Now to put across a deal which gives freedom of movement to all pretty much makes their votes worthless. Seems like it was a complete waste of time if you ask me.

I'd be happy to have another vote, but I don't think anyone should be called a racist for wanting to leave the EU, nor be called a snowflake for wanting to remain.
 
ben g said:
I voted leave, but as the process has dragged on so long, I think it's probably only right that the public get a vote on the FINAL deal (if it comes to that).

99% of people I know who voted leave, voted that way due to immigration, which is pretty much what the entire leave campaign was based on.

Now to put across a deal which gives freedom of movement to all pretty much makes their votes worthless. Seems like it was a complete waste of time if you ask me.

I'd be happy to have another vote, but I don't think anyone should be called a racist for wanting to leave the EU, nor be called a snowflake for wanting to remain.

Yup, it’s certainly turned proper tribal! Worse thn football supporters!
 
sp3ctre said:
Yup, it’s certainly turned proper tribal! Worse thn football supporters!

It certainly has!
A friend and colleague of thirty years referred to me as as a traitor because of my pro Eu opinion. The chap got very heated during his regular rants.

One of his rants centred around “make our own laws” but could never specify one of the “silly “ Eu laws he banged on about.

He got so rude and abusive I’ve just blocked his number. I find it sad that an otherwise intelligent fella could react in such a juvenile/ yobbish way.
 
ronk said:
sp3ctre said:
Yup, it’s certainly turned proper tribal! Worse thn football supporters!

It certainly has!
A friend and colleague of thirty years referred to me as as a traitor because of my pro Eu opinion. The chap got very heated during his regular rants.

One of his rants centred around “make our own laws” but could never specify one of the “silly “ Eu laws he banged on about.

He got so rude and abusive I’ve just blocked his number. I find it sad that an otherwise intelligent fella could react in such a juvenile/ yobbish way.

Totally. Btw, I have an example... the web “cookie law”. Not to say we would reverse it though, we probably wouldn’t.
 
The abuse from both sides has definitely got out of hand I will be glad when it’s over whatever the outcome.
The next general election should be interesting
 
jabber said:
The abuse from both sides has definitely got out of hand I will be glad when it’s over whatever the outcome.
The next general election should be interesting

Yeah, they’ll be lucky to get 52 votes, let alone 52%
 
sp3ctre said:
jabber said:
The abuse from both sides has definitely got out of hand I will be glad when it’s over whatever the outcome.
The next general election should be interesting

Yeah, they’ll be lucky to get 52 votes, let alone 52%

It’s not the result of the voting that concerns me, it’s the actions of the few on whichever side won’t get their way.

This was a very British mutiny & the soft skills applied should have brought people together by working on a joint plan, not driven many apart
 
That was our once chief negotiators quotation tho!
“Once in a lifetime” was just one of many sound bites the political idiots trotted out!
 
Smartbear said:
Be honest with yourself, if the remain camp had won the referendum would you be campaigning for another vote if more information came to light?

You can’t think of it the other way around. The vote was to do something unknown or maintain the status quo.
 
And he wasn’t the only one either!BF936259-F7F9-4320-A94C-286C31EE585A.png

Personally, there’s not many of them that I would trust to run a bath never mind a country!
 
MrPT said:
Smartbear said:
Be honest with yourself, if the remain camp had won the referendum would you be campaigning for another vote if more information came to light?

You can’t think of it the other way around. The vote was to do something unknown or maintain the status quo.

I think you could if the information that came to light was about the legitimacy of the campaign rather than statements that proved to be untrue.
Rob
 
MrPT said:
Smartbear said:
Be honest with yourself, if the remain camp had won the referendum would you be campaigning for another vote if more information came to light?

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You can’t think of it the other way around. The vote was to do something unknown or maintain the status quo.

It's not really. We've only been in the EU (or its predecessor) for about 45 years in our history. So hardly "unknown" unless you mean in the sense of we are the first country to use Article 50 to leave the EU?

Having a second referendum now would be very unfair on the leave camp. It's like holding a vote when we've had all the angst and worry over the negotiations but none of the upside from actually being out. At least when we joined the EU we actually had a few years in before we asked the question again. If there must be a second vote it should be 5 years after we've actually left so people have more evidence to judge the success or failure of the project.

A lot was made about promises made by the leave camp before the referendum but most of those involved weren't MP's or senior figures in the government (Boris excluded) so it was no more than the usual political campaigning that goes on before an election. Anyway, the remain side had a national government-funded leaflet campaign to every household in their favour and "Project Fear" which we all know now was utter horse****.
 
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