thoughts on this

Z4M-2006 said:
Its a realistic view...

if someone was looking at 2 cars with identical miles and one has £3k of work done to the engine,then im sure the car would look more desirable..

If its worth £1000 more to that same buyer is down to them i guess...

As a guy that keeps his eye on the M cars,what would you pay for it Andy with the work done ?

Got me on the spot :oops:
i would look at it as i would a Porsche with the even more expensive engine rebuild , , happy to take it but not prepared to pay any more for it .
Seen regularly in Posrche world when a seller try's to regain some credibility & value to the a car by stressing the benefits of the rebuild but in reality it rarely adds much to the sale price other than some form of contentment to a certain buyer .
If i was looking at 2 similar specced ,similar standard, similar mile Z4Ms & 1 had major engine work done but was £1500/£2k more expensive id go for the cheaper one as i don't believe it will happen to all cars :cry: but that could be me being naive :?
 
original guvnor said:
I'd love to know what you think of the new cams once they're fitted :thumbsup:

Oh don't worry - I will be sharing my thoughts :D I can't wait to see what the cams, intake and remap feel and sound like :D
 
mr wilks said:
Z4M-2006 said:
Its a realistic view...

if someone was looking at 2 cars with identical miles and one has £3k of work done to the engine,then im sure the car would look more desirable..

If its worth £1000 more to that same buyer is down to them i guess...

As a guy that keeps his eye on the M cars,what would you pay for it Andy with the work done ?

Got me on the spot :oops:
i would look at it as i would a Porsche with the even more expensive engine rebuild , , happy to take it but not prepared to pay any more for it .
Seen regularly in Posrche world when a seller try's to regain some credibility & value to the a car by stressing the benefits of the rebuild but in reality it rarely adds much to the sale price other than some form of contentment to a certain buyer .
If i was looking at 2 similar specced ,similar standard, similar mile Z4Ms & 1 had major engine work done but was £1500/£2k more expensive id go for the cheaper one as i don't believe it will happen to all cars :cry: but that could be me being naive :?

I do get that view. The it's not worth more because it *shouldn't* go wrong. And that is where I was when I bought the car with 80k miles. And after 10k it needed the work doing. So I guess my point is one or two of the uncertainties have been removed by having the work done now at my cost. It sounds like a personal thing from a buyers point of view. You buy into it having been done and give that some value, or you give it no value as you discount you needing to spend the money in the future....
 
Z4M-2006 said:
Thats a shame ... :(

Just keep the car and use it as much as possible...... :thumbsup:

Yea I have no plans to sell the car but I am just interested to see the view on the spend vs the value of the car.
 
mr wilks said:
Z4M-2006 said:
Its a realistic view...

if someone was looking at 2 cars with identical miles and one has £3k of work done to the engine,then im sure the car would look more desirable..

If its worth £1000 more to that same buyer is down to them i guess...

As a guy that keeps his eye on the M cars,what would you pay for it Andy with the work done ?

Got me on the spot :oops:
i would look at it as i would a Porsche with the even more expensive engine rebuild , , happy to take it but not prepared to pay any more for it .
Seen regularly in Posrche world when a seller try's to regain some credibility & value to the a car by stressing the benefits of the rebuild but in reality it rarely adds much to the sale price other than some form of contentment to a certain buyer .
If i was looking at 2 similar specced ,similar standard, similar mile Z4Ms & 1 had major engine work done but was £1500/£2k more expensive id go for the cheaper one as i don't believe it will happen to all cars :cry: but that could be me being naive :?


Hegsactly....

The m95/96 was an analogy that sprang to my mind and i dare say the same rules apply...

Like you say...Some S54's will do 150k+..........some blow up at 30k,the fun is the "not knowing"........ :lol:
 
pvr said:
But the higher the miles, the worse the odds get …

Rather have a higher mile car that's been well looked after than a low one that's had some harsh miles under the belt :wink:
That's where the gamble of used cars lies , the not knowing exactly how your car has been treat .
I'm a positive thinker & always buy on condition,history & gut instinct , whether mine will explode at 80k will have to be seen , 2k to go which i don't see taking long , all i will do is keep all fluids fresh , warm the car before any revving & not abuse it , hopefully that will be enough :wink:
 
I get nervous when a car gets over 80k that it will let me down and I would no longer feel comfortable taking it on a European trip. So I calculate the amount of years I can use a car until it reaches that mileage and then I have to get rid. Just my own nervousness.
 
Mine was cheaper when it had 20k less miles ... Lol..

Personally I would change the oil often... Certainly at least once between the specced service intervals.

Make sure coolant is changed on time .. Operating temps kept as low as possible is the best preventative measure you can take ..

BTW.... My oil temp was between 5/10 degrees lower using Mobil one than castrol..used millers too, excellent oil with good temp control
 
Z4M-2006 said:
Mine was cheaper when it had 20k less miles ... Lol..

Personally I would change the oil often... Certainly at least once between the specced service intervals.

Make sure coolant is changed on time .. Operating temps kept as low as possible is the best preventative measure you can take ..

BTW.... My oil temp was between 5/10 degrees lower using Mobil one than castrol..used millers too, excellent oil with good temp control

Good advice on the oil choice which i shall heed , i would always change oil yearly anyhow so that would be under 5k
Temp wise the Scotland jaunt & a Normandy trip in October will be the engines heaviest toil & the bulk of the miles to France wil be at 75mph motorway with some spirited stuff when there .
In all honesty its been said & done on so many different cars but get in mine with tape over the mileage & i guarantee no one who who hadn't prior knowledge would ever get close to the actual reading :wink: & that goes for the steeering,suspension & trim
Some folks will have lost in depreciation what i paid for the car so its all relative , its always worked for me this way so no reason to change direction :thumbsup:
 
pvr said:
I get nervous when a car gets over 80k that it will let me down and I would no longer feel comfortable taking it on a European trip. So I calculate the amount of years I can use a car until it reaches that mileage and then I have to get rid. Just my own nervousness.


how many cars have you had with over 80k on the clock and how many of them have let you down?
 
Taz said:
pvr said:
I get nervous when a car gets over 80k that it will let me down and I would no longer feel comfortable taking it on a European trip. So I calculate the amount of years I can use a car until it reaches that mileage and then I have to get rid. Just my own nervousness.


how many cars have you had with over 80k on the clock and how many of them have let you down?

Good point , , i must have been to France at least 50 times in vehicles with over 80k & a good few over 100k
Been caught out with a Passat coilpack , Vito van fuel pump & centre pipe of exhaust on a Merc 200TE in 15 years & maybe 90? trips :
 
Taz said:
pvr said:
I get nervous when a car gets over 80k that it will let me down and I would no longer feel comfortable taking it on a European trip. So I calculate the amount of years I can use a car until it reaches that mileage and then I have to get rid. Just my own nervousness.


how many cars have you had with over 80k on the clock and how many of them have let you down?

Good point - 24k miles on my car when I bought it from PVR, and I paid half what he suffered in depreciation vs. what he paid new. But he'd had it 7 years and needed more space for a once in a lifetime purchase. It's all about circumstance and means :wink:
 
my golf as 90K and i feel its just run in, just had a cam belt and i think it will now be good to 150k
 
3, of which 2 had expensive repairs as soon as they reached that mileage. The E53 X5 did not quite break down in Europe, but the glow plug control went at 75k which made it almost impossible to start in the mountains. Just my personal discomfort with cars reaching that sort of mileage as I don't want the aggro when travelling.
 
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