Is this the lowest mileage Garage Queen for sale?
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Lubrication engineers have something to say, but this is in-use :
http://www.lubeng.com.au/assets/files/technitips/068_Motor Oil Degradation.pdf
And another :
http://www.lubeng.com.au/assets/files/technitips/068_Motor Oil Degradation.pdf
Bored of google now... It appears that oil degradation is mostly due to contaminants, acid build up and oxidisation. The latter would affect opened, unused oil, but very slowly. I found a thread on a lubrication forum with people stating they use oil that is more than 10 years old, here :
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1253274
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http://www.lubeng.com.au/assets/files/technitips/068_Motor Oil Degradation.pdf
And another :
http://www.lubeng.com.au/assets/files/technitips/068_Motor Oil Degradation.pdf
Bored of google now... It appears that oil degradation is mostly due to contaminants, acid build up and oxidisation. The latter would affect opened, unused oil, but very slowly. I found a thread on a lubrication forum with people stating they use oil that is more than 10 years old, here :
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1253274
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Bing said:
Ade or his good lady will know. Iirc oil is or was their area of expertise
By the seaside...
srhutch said:I guess this is one of those things we will disagree on, but I believe the following extract clearly states what must happen every two years.
Regardless of your belief, you have had two people posting who have been told by BMW UK that their servicing requirements are different from your interpretation. and one from the father of a master tech at Sytner whose son performed an inspection service on his ///M because of the 2-year rule rather than because it had covered enough mileage since the previous inspection where your interpretation would have had a second consecutive oil service at that point
I'm satisfied that I understand the servicing requirements because I've had an explanation from 'the horses' mouth' but, if you, or anyone else, have any doubts, or want clarification, I urge you to contact BMW UK yourselves as this is an area where getting it wrong could land you with a big bill
If you don't have any sort of warranty, you won't be as worried about this but you may want to ensure that, come trade-in time, a dealer doesn't turn around and say that it's worth a couple of thousand less as they won't be able to sell it as an AUC because you haven't serviced it in accordance with the manufacturers requirements - arguing about the wording in the manual at that point will be an exercise in futility.
Lets not fall out about it. The car is a beaut. Maybe I'll phone and ask about its service history. Whoever buys it I hope they join the forum
Nah, nobody is getting upset, just a discussion with different opinions.
Just a pity that BMW themselves can't get this servicing properly defined as it varies by model.
Having said that, VW is even worse where you have different schedules depending on which service routine you select upon purchase of the car.Long Iife one or standard.
Right or wrong it actually does not affect me, when I traded the X5 in they did not even check / look at the service history. Just asked if it was serviced at BMW only or not.
Just a pity that BMW themselves can't get this servicing properly defined as it varies by model.
Having said that, VW is even worse where you have different schedules depending on which service routine you select upon purchase of the car.Long Iife one or standard.
Right or wrong it actually does not affect me, when I traded the X5 in they did not even check / look at the service history. Just asked if it was serviced at BMW only or not.
Stuart Truman said:
I don't think there's any danger of anyone falling out over this - at least I hope not.
It's just that this is a fairly important point that could cost some people a substantial amount and it revolves around the interpretation of the wording of the instructions in the service manual as opposed to BMW UK's actual requirements - and I understand exactly where srhutch and pvr were coming from on this as I interpreted the instructions in exactly the same way and was caught out by it.
The servicing on the M is too complicated. My Micra was much simpler, every 12.5k miles or 12 months whichever is sooner, alternating services between cheap and cheap-ish. Easy!
ive got my inspection 2 booked in for next tuesday 
dropping it off tuesday night and giving them wed and thursday to do it
the aftersales manager who phoned be back said its quite a big job... :lol:
managed to get them down from 1100 to to 820, wonder if anyone doesnt bother getting dealers to price match
also getting courtesy car for the 2 days.....any guesses what it might be?
im thinking a 1 series??
dropping it off tuesday night and giving them wed and thursday to do itthe aftersales manager who phoned be back said its quite a big job... :lol:
managed to get them down from 1100 to to 820, wonder if anyone doesnt bother getting dealers to price match
also getting courtesy car for the 2 days.....any guesses what it might be?
im thinking a 1 series??
Maybe an ex-Olympic chauffeur-mobile 520d?
Sounds like they are at least going to do the shims properly.
Sounds like they are at least going to do the shims properly.
Wondermike said:
It's not just the ///M it's all BMWs - the new CBS is supposed to make things easier but, on our old 1-series, at one point it resulted in us booking in for 3 separate services in the space of less than 4 months
On the 'service-light' driven models, it would have been a lot simpler if they'd said in the manual 'Your next service is due when all 5 green lights are extinguished or 24 months from your last service, whichever is sooner' because that's what they mean
