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Simon, unfortunately most BMW service desk people don't know all the cars and the different requirements especially when it comes to the M model.
 
pvr said:
Simon, unfortunately most BMW service desk people don't know all the cars and the different requirements especially when it comes to the M model.
It doesn't matter if it's the ///M or not, Simon has been told exactly as I was, and my info came from BMW UK themselves, that you follow the service sequence for your car with a maximum gap of two years between services and, irrespective of mileage, you do not have a second oil service rather than an inspection

If your car is out of warranty then it's entirely up to you if you decide to base the need for an inspection on mileage alone but, if it's under extended warranty, they can (I won't say will) refuse any warranty claim if you don't follow the correct service regime
 
That is the point though, it does matter what the model of the car is. As I explained above, a 3.0d engine for example NEVER gets an INSP II but gets another Oil + Fuel filter instead. The standard rule can not be applied across all models.

I would like to see anyone from BMW UK explain why shims need to be inspected on a car with 6k miles for example, but then again I would expect the dealer to just stamp Insp I has been done, but simply not do the Insp I items (in effect just an oil service then). Did anyone with a low mileage car ever see a shim report?
 
As I said, you follow the service sequence for your car as laid out in the service book for your car - if that says oil / Inspection 1 / oil / Inspection II then that's the sequence for that model. If it's a different model and it says something else then you follow that sequence - the service books have the spaces for the stamps in the correct order so it's not rocket science

The service requirements are all written for the majority of cars and don't make allowances for the 'exceptional' very low mileage examples, so you may be right about the garages not doing the Inspection items on a low mileage car but, if you don't keep to the schedule, having a warranty claim refused when you think that you're covered can get rather expensive
 
Not quite though - the 3.0d book still mentions Insp II as it is a standard BMW service book, just that it is redundant.

I am not disagreeing with you with regards to what BMW UK has said or a dealer, just that unfortunately there are very few service people about that really know what they are talking about.

Similar statement that they make that run-flat rims on the Z4 can not have standard tyres for example, nor are they aware of roof drain cleaning requirements to name a few.
 
Hmm... same as Perry for me, BMWUK not a service desk monkey although I have popped into my local dealer and they have been pretty good so far.

Cheers,

Simon.
 
Perry, interesting discussion as Sytner told me to stick to the service level indicator when I called and asked about service when I got #69...

As PVR said, unfortunately service desk gnomes aren't always well informed. As far as Alpina is concerned, I'll trust to Sytners advice.
 
on a topic of services, phoned 2 localish dealers for a quote on an inspection 2, both were low 800's
so ive just called my local dealer and theyve gone off to try and price match after quoting 1100...
the receptionist woman sounded a bit shocked at the price she quoted me....
so lets see if they match the prices, what are the chances of getting a courtesy car nowdays? seeing as its an overnight stop for the ///m?
 
Stuart Truman said:
Perry, interesting discussion as Sytner told me to stick to the service level indicator when I called and asked about service when I got #69...

As PVR said, unfortunately service desk gnomes aren't always well informed. As far as Alpina is concerned, I'll trust to Sytners advice.

They don't expect people to do low enough mileage that the indicators won't show a service within 2 years, but you shouldn't exceed 2 years between services

If they haven't already had one, the first of the 2004 RSs should be coming up to the point where they require an I2 on age alone (I'm sure Ade will back me up on this if you want a second opinion :) )
 
Herminator said:
its easy to get a courtesy car but they seem to like charging around £12 a day to insure it....

meh not bad considering im gonna rag the tits off it...
safely and legally of course
 
PerryGunn said:
Stuart Truman said:
Perry, interesting discussion as Sytner told me to stick to the service level indicator when I called and asked about service when I got #69...

As PVR said, unfortunately service desk gnomes aren't always well informed. As far as Alpina is concerned, I'll trust to Sytners advice.

They don't expect people to do low enough mileage that the indicators won't show a service within 2 years, but you shouldn't exceed 2 years between services

If they haven't already had one, the first of the 2004 RSs should be coming up to the point where they require an I2 on age alone (I'm sure Ade will back me up on this if you want a second opinion :) )


All correct Perry. The earliest RS's should have already seen an I2: I had #168 (Sept '04 registered) done last March (a few months later than spec, but not a major issue as interim oil had been done). That ensures the sparks are changed, along with whatever else is needed in a normal service for the car. Never exceed 2 years between services: the oil will start to do really nasty things to the engine internals and Longlife oils are good for a max of 2years in any engine as they have to cope with the hydrocarbons/moisture/acidic by-products from combustion. Then there is the potential for oil filter degradation and collapse followed by internal consumption by the engine (it's happened).

Interestingly, both I and another forum member inspected/drove/stroked chin over a very low miles, well-priced 2005 RS a couple of years back. It had questionable SH and quite independently we both walked away and happened across each other a little time later...at which time we had an interesting conversation re the car we had both looked at :lol: Turns out he too knows a bit about the oily bits :wink:

Oh, and Sytner don't always get it right....TWS in an RS engine! :cry: :headbang:
 
Sorry, that should have read "the first of the 2005 RSs" not 2004! #320 will be having an I2 during the summer - about a month before her warranty runs out :)
 
guys dont want to upset any one. my son is a master tec at sytner .my 2006 m roadster i bought nov 2011 24000 miles .but it was no were near inspection service but had to have it done because of the time interval.
when he checked the shimms the car had been standing for 24 hrs with out running and he changed 13 of the shimms.now this is my son so i beleive him as he did it in my garage at home still got the old shimms .he has aways told me to buy high milaege bms (example) :thumbsup: .i bought a x5 3ltr 4 year old 11000 miles had a new gearbox with in a month.just hope this doesent happen to the m
 
PerryGunn said:
If they haven't already had one, the first of the 2004 RSs should be coming up to the point where they require an I2 on age alone (I'm sure Ade will back me up on this if you want a second opinion :) )

No arguments here. #69 just had Insp II. Just under 45k miles now...

Less than £400 notes from the main dealer as they misquoted me originally but honoured their mistake
 
I guess this is one of those things we will disagree on, but I believe the following extract clearly states what must happen every two years.

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Wonder if the spare oil litre "ages" if it is sitting in the container ...
 
Good question. Never checked for a 'use by' date, but I guess if it is sealed, i.e. no air can get in, then it should be ok :?
 
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