Is this the lowest mileage Garage Queen for sale?

PerryGunn said:
I think that you'll find that the service intervals are mileage or time-based, if you reach two years since the last one, you have the next one in sequence even if you've only done a few hundred miles. I always fall foul of this as my toy cars will only ever do 2-3k pa so my (dealer) services are always time based - I do additional oil services etc myself as I like to put fresh oil in fairly often


I didn't realise it was the next one in sequence, I thought it was oil/brake fluid every 2 years until you hit the Inspection mileage , thanks for the clarification :thumbsup:
 
stu if u get a sagaris i will buy that off you when you think its time to move on....i'll take a mortgage out on it
 
i doubt that will ever happen. My plan to pay off the house comes first. The sort of money I'm talking about spending on switching cars is reasonable to stop me being bored and blowing the plan altogether

I might just do some more mods though.
 
Stuart Truman said:
Perry, Alpinas consume so much bloody oil the 2year change is hardly worth it. They probably all have fresh oil in them! (I still do mine)

It's just habit, I don't like to leave it more than a year between oil changes and, with an oil extraction pump, it takes about 20-30 mins all in - and no hot oil shooting down your sleeve :)

As far as the 3.4S engine goes, it's variable, Ade was suffering very high oil consumption, I think it was about 650miles per litre on 0w30 before he changed viscosities. I don't know what #69 is like, but #320 doesn't seem to have much of an oil thirst - it's approx 500 miles since I changed her oil back to 0w30 and she's still at the top mark on the dipstick
 
Correct interval for that M would be:

Running in at 1200
Oil / Brake at 2 years
Oil / Brake at 2 years
Oil / Brake at 2 years

Mileage dictate Insp I, so it should not have had that one (nor Insp II).
 
pvr said:
Correct interval for that M would be:

Running in at 1200
Oil / Brake at 2 years
Oil / Brake at 2 years
Oil / Brake at 2 years

Mileage dictate Insp I, so it should not have had that one (nor Insp II).

sorry pvr service intervals are max 2 years, and you have the next in sequence. I once had a BMW warranty claim refused because of having had an additional oil service rather than an I1 as I hadn't adhered to the service schedule.

NB I should say that this is for cars without CBS, as this system may have changed things
 
PerryGunn said:
pvr said:
Correct interval for that M would be:

Running in at 1200
Oil / Brake at 2 years
Oil / Brake at 2 years
Oil / Brake at 2 years

Mileage dictate Insp I, so it should not have had that one (nor Insp II).

sorry pvr service intervals are max 2 years, and you have the next in sequence. I once had a BMW warranty claim refused because of having had an additional oil service rather than an I1 as I hadn't adhered to the service schedule.

NB I should say that this is for cars without CBS, as this system may have changed things

Sorry but PVR is correct, only oil/brake fluid changes are required. Might be different for Alpinas but the BMW service book is clear.
 
I'd love to do a bottom mount turbo on the alpina 3.4s. It would epic, shoot for 500hp, 500tq. Epic.

I've driven a ess twin screw alpina and it would murder an z4///m all day, it was wonderful, the sound was nearing perfection.


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Wasn,t there a mint ultra low miles 2006 imola M sold on forum in last few months ? The seller also had a range rover i think ??
 
Sorry Stuart, I don't think it's a big enough change, okay it's an M but at least with the E89 it was a newer platform.
 
srhutch said:
Sorry but PVR is correct, only oil/brake fluid changes are required. Might be different for Alpinas but the BMW service book is clear.

This wasn't on an Alpina, it was on my E36 coupe, and I eventually got a goodwill payment from BMW that covered the cost of the repair because I argued with them, through Chandlers in Brighton, that the service book only said that oil had to be changed at maximum intervals of two years, but I had it explained to me that the BMW servicing schedule allows for a maximum gap of two years and the oil change is part of every service - the service people at Chandlers agreed that the service book should be more explicit about this

I know that this sort of thing only affects people who do very low annual mileage (like me) but, having been caught by this, I wouldn't like to see anyone else in the same situation
 
PerryGunn said:
srhutch said:
Sorry but PVR is correct, only oil/brake fluid changes are required. Might be different for Alpinas but the BMW service book is clear.

This wasn't on an Alpina, it was on my E36 coupe, and I eventually got a goodwill payment from BMW that covered the cost of the repair because I argued with them, through Chandlers in Brighton, that the service book only said that oil had to be changed at maximum intervals of two years, but I had it explained to me that the BMW servicing schedule allows for a maximum gap of two years and the oil change is part of every service - the service people at Chandlers agreed that the service book should be more explicit about this

I know that this sort of thing only affects people who do very low annual mileage (like me) but, having been caught by this, I wouldn't like to see anyone else in the same situation

The service book is very clear in my opinion. Everything other than Brake fluid (changed every two years) is condition based.

The only exception to this is that oil must be changed every two years if the condition based servicing has not been reached.

I cannot see how BMW could this as long a an Oil Service has been performed. If what they said was true I'm sure the book would say condition based or 2 years maximum.
 
srhutch said:
The service book is very clear in my opinion. Everything other than Brake fluid (changed every two years) is condition based.

The only exception to this is that oil must be changed every two years if the condition based servicing has not been reached.
I cannot see how BMW could this as long a an Oil Service has been performed. If what they said was true I'm sure the book would say condition based or 2 years maximum.

I did have the original letter about this but I passed it on with the e36, it's difficult to find BMW documents that refer to the older cars online but I found one relating to US cars http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xo-fjLwJBuEJ:http://jbbeach.com/files/bmw323ci/020-1_Maintenance_general.pdf%2BBMW+maximum+24+month+service+interval&hl=en&client=ms-opera-mobile&channel=new&ct=clnk


At the end of the document it says

Inspection I and Inspection II

The Service Interval Indicator signals the need for more
comprehensive maintenance and inspection. There are two sets of
inspection requirements. These inspections alternate throughout a
car's maintenance history. If the last inspection interval was
Inspection I, the next inspection interval (following an oil service) will
be Inspection II, the next after that will be Inspection I, and so on.
Inspection I tasks are listed in Table b. Inspection II includes most
of the tasks from Inspection I with additional Inspection II tasks. A
complete listing of Inspection II tasks is in Table c.
Note:
For reference, the BMW Inspection I and Inspection II requirements
are approximately equivalent to the maintenance requirements that
other European manufacturers specify. Inspection I is normally due
at intervals with a maximum of 30,000 miles or 24 months.
Inspection II is normally due at intervals with a maximum of 60,000
miles or 48 months

The US document is more explicit about maintenance than BMW UK, I wonder if this is because people sue at the drop of a hat in the US so the car companies feel that they have to spell everything out. They also say oil services every 15k or 12 months, which may be due to the higher mileage covered in the US, but I think is much more sensible anyway

At the end of the day, 2 year gaps between services only means an inspection every 4 years, looking at the car that started this thread, would you want a 6 year old car that has never had an inspection service?
 
Things like shims wear through mileage not time. Would make no sense to do a shim adjustment on a car that has not been used.
 
Also, this differs per car. For example a 3.0 d would never have an insp II, petrol version does.
 
pvr said:
Also, this differs per car. For example a 3.0 d would never have an insp II, petrol version does.
The point the service department made to me was that I should have been following the service schedule for my car with a maximum of 2 year gaps - I think that they only took my corner with BMW because they'd sold and serviced the car and felt that when I booked it in for the 2nd oil service in a row that they should have pointed out that it was due an inspection (I may have said this to them when BMW initially declined the extended warranty claim, but I can't recall as it was a long time ago)
 
Just joining in at the end of this thread with the servicing talk. Interestingly pvr pointed out on the car I was looking at which I then bought having had an inspection 1 service when all it needed was another oil service. Obviously I then called BMW and they confirmed what has been posted above that the order is correct for the two year intervals and two oil services don't follow each other. My car being four and a half years old and having had 1200/oil/inspection 1 (October) to be followed with oil and then in four years time inspection 2

Cheers,

Simon.
 
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