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[Deleted member 32480]

As many were predicting https://apple.news/Ax9t1n5fQQVm43ZjDN1Vc4A
Rob

Lolz

It says a lot about you as a person that you find this amusing :thumbsdown:
Rob

The only thing I find amusing it that you believe it.

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/are-nhs-scaremongers-using-out-of-date-covid-figures/

 

[Smartbear]

Lolz

It says a lot about you as a person that you find this amusing :thumbsdown:
Rob

The only thing I find amusing it that you believe it.

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/are-nhs-scaremongers-using-out-of-date-covid-figures/

And I find it hilarious that when you read facts you don’t like you choose not to believe them!
Rob

 

[TitanTim]

Unless there was a good reason for these people not to do the right thing and take the vaccines then kick the numpties out of hospital I say, after all aren't these people superhuman and the whole thing is made up so they haven't anything to worry about.

Tim.

 

[Deleted member 32480]

And I find it hilarious that when you read facts you don’t like you choose not to believe them!
Rob

Are they facts Rob? Where is the data from? If it was true you would think they would have show all the data in the article.

They are facts in your eyes because you read it in a broadsheet so it must be true.

It's even got Tim so radicalised to the point where he would remove people from hospital because they haven't had the medical treatment that he has had.

I would love to see where the data was taken from, the time period and the age of these people and their definition of vaccinated. Probably alot of people who are double vaccinated who haven't had their boosters are now being classed as unvaccinated.

Would love to know who wrote the article as well. "Anonymous" lolz

 

[TitanTim]

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It's even got Tim so radicalised to the point where he would remove people from hospital because they haven't had the medical treatment that he has had.
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Sorry to disapoint you on that one, it's called a harsh reality check on an avoidable situation.

Simples.

Tim.

 

[Deleted member 32480]

Sorry to disapoint you on that one, it's called a harsh reality check on an avoidable situation.

It's not tho is it.

Maybe in your little world Tim where you think that it's an acceptable thing to do.

But thank God in the real one it doesn't work like that.

 

[TitanTim]

Sorry to disapoint you on that one, it's called a harsh reality check on an avoidable situation.

It's not tho is it.

Maybe in your little world Tim where you think that it's an acceptable thing to do.

But thank God in the real one it doesn't work like that.

Sometimes reality hurts when seen through those rose tinted glasses.

I can quite understand why doctors and nurses are angry over this unavoidable situation.

Tim.

 

[Deleted member 32480]

Sorry to disapoint you on that one, it's called a harsh reality check on an avoidable situation.

It's not tho is it.

Maybe in your little world Tim where you think that it's an acceptable thing to do.

But thank God in the real one it doesn't work like that.

Sometimes reality hurts when seen through those rose tinted glasses.

I can quite understand why doctors and nurses are angry over this unavoidable situation.

Tim.

Just want to see the figures and make a judgement off them rather than an opinion piece written by an "anonymous" writer.

Where as you for example want someone refused hospital treatment who has already had the virus because they won't submit to 4 injections a year to protect them from something they have already had.

And it's me looking at things with a bias.

 

[pvr]

The refusal of treatment would be a bit odd to me. No different to refusing treatment for smokers and fat people as that is also a choice made?

 

[Smartbear]

The refusal of treatment would be a bit odd to me. No different to refusing treatment for smokers and fat people as that is also a choice made?

Smoking & obesity aren’t contagious though are they :?
Rob

 

[pvr]

The refusal of treatment would be a bit odd to me. No different to refusing treatment for smokers and fat people as that is also a choice made?

Smoking & obesity aren’t contagious though are they :?
Rob

I was referring to the concept of Tim who suggested not treating unvaccinated people (ie self inflicted)

 

[Deleted member 32480]

The refusal of treatment would be a bit odd to me.

A very diplomatic way of putting it.

 

[TitanTim]

The refusal of treatment would be a bit odd to me. No different to refusing treatment for smokers and fat people as that is also a choice made?

Smoking & obesity aren’t contagious though are they :?
Rob

I was referring to the concept of Tim who suggested not treating unvaccinated people (ie self inflicted)

But isn't it though in reality? vaccine is free, virtually nil side affects so no real reason whatsoever to put the self centredness aside for once do the decent thing.

These people who get bogged down on fact and figures lifted off the internet and sit of the fence beggars belief and should in my book be left behind. The frightening thing is these same people appear to have intelligence but unfortunately lack common sense.

Tim.

 

[Nanu]

Covid related deaths falling and hospitalisations falling despite an increase in cases. The prediction of mass flu infections this year not happening.

The NHS is far from collapsing and it is there to protect us not for us to protect them and I currently work for them

 

[TitanTim]

Covid related deaths falling and hospitalisations falling despite an increase in cases. The prediction of mass flu infections this year not happening.

The NHS is far from collapsing and it is there to protect us not for us to protect them and I currently work for them

But aren't the majority of covid cases in hospital now unvaccinated people?, whilst I appreciate some of those will be admitted due to other health complications isn't the fact that doctors and nurses are angry with a situation that could have been made less accute if those admissions had taken the vaccine up kind of says it all? All of which would have left hospitals to tackle the ever growing waiting lists and mainstream non covid related admissions. It's a situation centred around covid that in the main was unnavoidable.

Tim.

 

[Old-Duckman]

Smoking & obesity aren’t contagious though are they :?
Rob

I was referring to the concept of Tim who suggested not treating unvaccinated people (ie self inflicted)

But isn't it though in reality? vaccine is free, virtually nil side affects so no real reason whatsoever to put the self centredness aside for once do the decent thing.

These people who get bogged down on fact and figures lifted off the internet and sit of the fence beggars belief and should in my book be left behind. The frightening thing is these same people appear to have intelligence but unfortunately lack common sense.

Tim.

"virtually nil side affects" You've got to be kidding, right?

Anyway I thought that one could still transmit Covid to others even when "vaccinated", yes? Then what threat are the unvaccinated to any of you special vaccinated lot? Please send me my yellow star to sew on my jacket, you all need to know just who the unclean are !

 

[TitanTim]

I was referring to the concept of Tim who suggested not treating unvaccinated people (ie self inflicted)

But isn't it though in reality? vaccine is free, virtually nil side affects so no real reason whatsoever to put the self centredness aside for once do the decent thing.

These people who get bogged down on fact and figures lifted off the internet and sit of the fence beggars belief and should in my book be left behind. The frightening thing is these same people appear to have intelligence but unfortunately lack common sense.

Tim.

"virtually nil side affects" You've got to be kidding, right?

Anyway I thought that one could still transmit Covid to others even when "vaccinated", yes? Then what threat are the unvaccinated to any of you special vaccinated lot? Please send me my yellow star to sew on my jacket, you all need to know just who the unclean are !

I don't see the millions of people around the world who have had the vaccine dropping like flies as opposed to worldwide deaths due to covid.

I'd probably feel quite bad being vaccinated passing covid onto someone unvaccinated and they die when they didn't have too.

Tim.

 

[N4LLY]

Just had my Booster

 

[beanie]

I think the most worrying aspect of all this are opinions like Tim’s. FFS, turning people away/kicking them out from hospital, really?! If that’s the case, then perhaps you’ll be ok with people who don’t eat well, or exercise enough also being bumped down the list/refused treatment. Perhaps parents should get preferential treatment over those without kids? Or to give this some kind of motoring relevance, preferential treatment and care in the event of a large incident for those who have never had a speeding fine/drive a more environmentally responsible car?

I understand that these may not be exact parallels of the COVID situation and may perhaps seem a bit of a ‘reach’, but I see the division and the encouragement of such division by the public itself as being the thin end of a nasty wedge.

But hey, I’m alright, Jack.

 

[Nanu]

I see Spain along with others no doubt are saying that unless you are FULLY vaccinated then you can't go. Can't even produce a negative PCR test. I suspect more and more countries will follow.

Whether it's right or wrong has been well debated and subject of much argument, but here is an example of reality. By all means exercise your personal choice and freedom which many have died to protect, but we all have to accept as with most aspects of life, choices come with consequences.