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dannytheduck1985 said:
I know just as much as you lot about the accident.
Rolling doesn’t even need to come into it lol. It’s basic physics that a car with a solid roof is infact a lot structurally stronger than a convertible.
Well yes you'd hope most of us got your 'basic physics' fact, thanks for that. I'm intrigued to know what more advanced physics you could apply to explain how a car that takes no hit above the scuttle line would come off worse be it coupe or roadster. You think with that kind of impact a roadster shell would just crumple because it doesn't have a roof? Really? Bear in mind the coupe shell was just a bastardisation of the correct 85 shell, which passed no doubt all kinds of safety tests.
Sounds like you know best though.
 
I though the roadster had even more lateral strength to compensate the rooflessness (is that a word) I’m with tomk on this one.
 
Truth said:
I though the roadster had even more lateral strength to compensate the rooflessness (is that a word) I’m with tomk on this one.
I'm not sure that's quite right, but the e85 chassis inherently has a greater torsional rigidity iirc than that of an e46m3 for instance (not the wendy house version :hairdryer: ), so I think the lack of a roof is a moot point when considering a crash like this. If it rolls then it's a different story.
 
TomK said:
dannytheduck1985 said:
I know just as much as you lot about the accident.
Rolling doesn’t even need to come into it lol. It’s basic physics that a car with a solid roof is infact a lot structurally stronger than a convertible.
Well yes you'd hope most of us got your 'basic physics' fact, thanks for that. I'm intrigued to know what more advanced physics you could apply to explain how a car that takes no hit above the scuttle line would come off worse be it coupe or roadster. You think with that kind of impact a roadster shell would just crumple because it doesn't have a roof? Really? Bear in mind the coupe shell was just a bastardisation of the correct 85 shell, which passed no doubt all kinds of safety tests.
Sounds like you know best though.

Clearly not aware that without a roof, a car is a lot more flexible between front and rear axles

Sounds like you know best
 
I had grasped that concept, but this car was hit from the side. Anyway, I'm happy in my coupe (with added stiffness :D ).
 
TomK said:
Truth said:
I though the roadster had even more lateral strength to compensate the rooflessness (is that a word) I’m with tomk on this one.
I'm not sure that's quite right, but the e85 chassis inherently has a greater torsional rigidity iirc than that of an e46m3 for instance (not the wendy house version :hairdryer: ), so I think the lack of a roof is a moot point when considering a crash like this. If it rolls then it's a different story.

Obviously less rigidity but more strength in the side if that makes sense in this type of crash. Nevermind, as I’m not that educated to comment, i will step back from further conversations and won’t try to back you up.
All the best
 
Truth said:
TomK said:
Truth said:
I though the roadster had even more lateral strength to compensate the rooflessness (is that a word) I’m with tomk on this one.
I'm not sure that's quite right, but the e85 chassis inherently has a greater torsional rigidity iirc than that of an e46m3 for instance (not the wendy house version :hairdryer: ), so I think the lack of a roof is a moot point when considering a crash like this. If it rolls then it's a different story.

Obviously less rigidity but more strength in the side if that makes sense in this type of crash. Nevermind, as I’m not that educated to comment, i will step back from further conversations and won’t try to back you up.
All the best

Dude, this is not a heated conversation or is it a dig at anyone. It’s more a debate :D all input is welcome.
The duck vs the world :rofl:
 
dannytheduck1985 said:
TomK said:
I had grasped that concept, but this car was hit from the side. Anyway, I'm happy in my coupe (with added stiffness :D ).

Tom....... :thumbsup:

I'm just happy I wasn't in it, roof or no bloody roof! :D
Hope you're mending well AlfaScozzesi :thumbsup:
 
dannytheduck1985 said:
TomK said:
I had grasped that concept, but this car was hit from the side. Anyway, I'm happy in my coupe (with added stiffness :D ).

Tom....... :thumbsup:

I'm just happy I wasn't in it, roof or no bloody roof! :D
Hope you're mending well AlfaScozzesi :thumbsup:
 
TomK said:
I had grasped that concept, but this car was hit from the side. Anyway, I'm happy in my coupe (with added stiffness :D ).

I’m not sure I’d put much faith in Danny’s grasp - or respect - of physics. After all, it was abuse of physics that killed his own car...
 
dannytheduck1985 said:
TomK said:
I had grasped that concept, but this car was hit from the side. Anyway, I'm happy in my coupe (with added stiffness :D ).

Tom....... :thumbsup:

And I'm happy in my flippy floppy roadster. That was designed to save my life from impacts like that from the start. :D :wink:
 
Bing said:
TomK said:
I had grasped that concept, but this car was hit from the side. Anyway, I'm happy in my coupe (with added stiffness :D ).

I’m not sure I’d put much faith in Danny’s grasp - and respect - of physics. After all, it was abuse of physics that killed his car...

:rofl: :rofl:
You have a slightly valid point but shhhhh I didn’t admit to that
 
buzyg said:
dannytheduck1985 said:
TomK said:
I had grasped that concept, but this car was hit from the side. Anyway, I'm happy in my coupe (with added stiffness :D ).

Tom....... :thumbsup:

And I'm happy in my flippy floppy roadster. That was designed to save my life from impacts like that from the start. :D :wink:

You seen the euro ncap on an E89 :rofl: :rofl:
Scored all of 3 stars

My physics would say you be in a box :rofl:
 
Bing said:
TomK said:
I had grasped that concept, but this car was hit from the side. Anyway, I'm happy in my coupe (with added stiffness :D ).

I’m not sure I’d put much faith in Danny’s grasp - or respect - of physics. After all, it was abuse of physics that killed his own car...

Bit mean, more like badly built engine by the sounds of things, who knows, danny does sound like he enjoys the 'thrill of driving though! :lol: for that I can't blame him too much :D
 
TomK said:
Bing said:
TomK said:
I had grasped that concept, but this car was hit from the side. Anyway, I'm happy in my coupe (with added stiffness :D ).

I’m not sure I’d put much faith in Danny’s grasp - or respect - of physics. After all, it was abuse of physics that killed his own car...

Bit mean, more like badly built engine by the sounds of things, who knows, danny does sound like he enjoys the 'thrill of driving though! :lol: for that I can't blame him too much :D

It’s a bit of a s**t state of affairs that only a 1983 Passat can withstand my driving for a prolonged period of time.
 
buzyg said:
dannytheduck1985 said:
TomK said:
I had grasped that concept, but this car was hit from the side. Anyway, I'm happy in my coupe (with added stiffness :D ).

Tom....... :thumbsup:

And I'm happy in my flippy floppy roadster. That was designed to save my life from impacts like that from the start. :D :wink:
I refer you to my previous most your honour
TomK said:
Bear in mind the coupe shell was just a bastardisation of the correct 85 shell, which passed no doubt all kinds of safety tests.
 
dannytheduck1985 said:
TomK said:
Bing said:
I’m not sure I’d put much faith in Danny’s grasp - or respect - of physics. After all, it was abuse of physics that killed his own car...

Bit mean, more like badly built engine by the sounds of things, who knows, danny does sound like he enjoys the 'thrill of driving though! :lol: for that I can't blame him too much :D

It’s a bit of a s**t state of affairs that only a 1983 Passat can withstand my driving for a prolonged period of time.

:lol: :thumbsup:

I’m very glad you took my comment in the spirit it was made !
 
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