Nest v Hive v Tado

Hive for me. Had it in for a couple of years now. Simple and easy to use and setup. Very easy iPhone app to control everything you'd ever want. Regular programmes, ad hoc changes, various alerts and even switching on and off when returning from holiday :)

Downside is MrsCJ has mastered turning the heat up while sat on the sofa, while pretending to send a text.

Real trick for me has been to combine the Hive which is a glorified controller with wifi TRV's. Those allow each room to have its own temp and timing/temp programme, so unused rooms remain cold such as bedrooms, except from mid evening and early AM. Dining room is hot evening, etc. With a condenser boiler I'm now using 30% less gas than before and in a locally much warmer house.

Currently implementing a network of Wemo switches and plugs that control lighting, security, even the coffee machine, etc.
 
How do you link it to security? My garage / gate opening system needs to be connected to the alarm somehow as when you open the garage door without switching the alarm off first, it is a bit of an issue :) . I need to disable the sensor somehow.
 
pvr said:
How do you link it to security? My garage / gate opening system needs to be connected to the alarm somehow as when you open the garage door without switching the alarm off first, it is a bit of an issue :) . I need to disable the sensor somehow.

That's a good question for the future. I too would like to connect various other things around the home, such as security.
My alarm is linked so if the garage door is opened then the alarm would go off as the PIR sensor would pick up the movement. Currently a well placed boot in front of the PIR deactivates it if I plan to return home via the garage :)

Take a look at the WEMO range. There's a low voltage switch that perhaps could be used to remotely disconnect that PIR circuit??
 
In my own-commercially developed solution for garages / gates control etc, I can switch anything as there are a number of relays in the solution. Just not sure at the moment how I can "cut in" the alarm wiring to deactivate it. Planning to switch the alarm sensor off for say 5 minutes allowing enough time to switch the main alarm board off but will allow the user to configure that time.
 
Also for what it's worth, the Nest isn't compatible with Apple's Homekit software.

Currently have my eye on the new model of Hive as that plays nicely with Homekit.
 
pvr said:
I had not even heard of the others, that is what advertising does I guess ....

I was looking at the Tado one, but Hive now has geo location so seems to offer the same for less.
 
Looked at both Nest and Hive for daughters 1 bed flat. Opted for Nest as it has a learning feature which the Hive does not. It depends also on what type of property you have. My research led me to believe that if you live in a house, you should consider the Honeywell system as you can control individual zones/radiators.
 
Hmm - I have Honeywell but was not aware I could control different zones …

(off to Google).
 
I have had the honeywell Evohome and its been running for about a year.

I have to say that i'm happy with the way it functions and controls multiple zones, is controllable from my iPhone and can control the water heating when i get round to it.

Not cheap, but i recon that its saved me about 3,000 KW of gas from one yea rot another..... or its the fact that I've been on holiday this year for 77 days in all lol.

It has a master controller, and motorised wireless rad valves with local temperature sensing.
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I'm happy with its performance. but not cheap
 
How do the rads control work? I have the manual turning ones that you put on say 21 degrees, are the ones pictured above more sensitive as I don't really feel different temperature between any of them.
 
pvr said:
How do the rads control work? I have the manual turning ones that you put on say 21 degrees, are the ones pictured above more sensitive as I don't really feel different temperature between any of them.

pvr they work perfectly.

each valve takes 2 x AA batteries.

each valve can be set to show the room temp or the set value.

the valve temperature is set via the main controller and each zone can have up to 5 switched points in a 24 hour cycle.

You can directly act on the valve by turning the control dome and setting a value higher or lower the the value selected in the master controller. For instance, if you go in to a room which is normally set to a low or off value, you can adjust it to a higher value. this valve via the master controller will call the boiler to fire and low and behold it heats that rad only to the desired temp.

at the next set point change the vale temp will be reset to its original value.

The valves cycles themselves once a week to stop the pin from sticking in the valve body.

also if you open a window and they sense in that room that the temperature has dropped suddenly, the vale will close down the rad and stop calling the boiler to fire. this happens until the next set point when it reverts to the original temperature.

Hope this is the explanation you needed :-)
 
pvr said:
Yep, sounds perfect. Will have a look at that one.

Did you DIY or get it done?

did it myself. If you have the honeywell TRV's its a doddle, but adaptors for other TRV's are available.

operating it via the gateway is a doddle on the iPhone.
 
Just ordered a hive heating and water from Amazon for £119 thanks to markplant :thumbsup:

Be quick though finishes in under 3 hours.
 
srhutch said:
Just ordered a hive heating and water from Amazon for £119 thanks to markplant :thumbsup:

Be quick though finishes in under 3 hours.

This is why this forum is so good.
Someone has thread about a topic
People see something that's relevant an can help,
 
srhutch said:
Just ordered a hive heating and water from Amazon for £119 thanks to markplant :thumbsup:

Be quick though finishes in under 3 hours.

Do they have a 10 year warranty in case you fit it in 9 years? :whistle:
 
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