Nest v Hive v Tado

[srhutch]

Anybody looked into or bought any of the above to control their central heating.

Not sure I would actually save anything, but might stop the wife and kids moaning whilst retaining some control, so if they go out the heating goes off/down.

Thinking tado might be best for this.

Thoughts please.

 

[pvr]

But remember female logic - you have to put the thermostat on 28 at least when you walk in when the temperature is 18 in the house instead of the 19-20 you are aiming for …

So the more you switch it off, the higher they will ramp it up when walking back in ….

 

[srhutch]

I will hack it and put an offset in :evil:

 

[pvr]

I found my thermostat the other day in front of an open kitchen window to ensure the heating stayed on !!

 

[srhutch]

I found my thermostat the other day in front of an open kitchen window to ensure the heating stayed on !!

Sorry, but I did actually laugh at that. :lol:

What have you got then?

 

[mr wilks]

Its taken me 25 years to work it out but i reckon the secret here is let son pay the water bill , my daughter pay the electric bill & my wife pay the gas
All bills would drop mighty fast i bet :evil:

 

[pvr]

Mine is not what you want, it is the remote control from Honeywell. Works well in the house, is portable (as you already knew …) and has a lot of programming functions (including the "override everything" option button that my wife has worn down by use )

It does not have a phone interface nor external access.

Going to use my own developed unit for my office heating - at least it will be programmable and phone controlled that way. But I am "abusing" the gate unit for that though.

 

[BRC]

My wife simply cannot get her head around how a trv works. If she were dripping sweat and the radiator were cold she would turn up the heating!!!!! Rads have to be belting out heat or the house is cold. Given up trying to explain and now just grudgingly pay the gas bill and remind myself I cannot take it with me because at this rate there will be none left! :headbang:

 

[mj2k]

We've looked at all options & couldn't really see the benefit. Wife now understands how a thermostat works, but after changing all the double glazing, roof and wall insulation we barely need heating without me wearing shorts and t shirt.

Annoyingly all this insulation has highlighted one part of a sloped ceiling which needs insulation as all the moisture in the house congregates on the only cold spot in the house. Only just noticed & thought we had a leak in the roof given the recent drop in temperature driving increased condensation.

Like the idea of controlling heating remotely but just can't find a reason to get it.

 

[pvr]

Wife now understands how a thermostat works

You are a liar, I checked all the Guiness books of records of the last 10 years, and she is NOT in it :lol:

 

[Adam D]

I have been running Tado v2 here with extension kit for hot water control since August replacing an old 1 day programmer and dial thermostat. Self installed in under an hour and really pleased with how stable the house temp now is and the geolocation feature

Happy to answer any questions you may have.

 

[mj2k]

Wife now understands how a thermostat works

You are a liar, I checked all the Guiness books of records of the last 10 years, and she is NOT in it :lol:

You caught me out, the one she understands isn't connected to the heating after I had it moved to the warmest room...why do they put thermostats in the coldest hallways, are builders paid by gas companies?

 

[TitanTim]

Can't comment on the Nest or Tado but had a Hive fitted some 6 months ago and love it to be honest. I primarily went with the Hive as I'm with British Gas and were doing it cheaper for existing customers, think it was £149 fitted. It was supposed to take 90 mins to fit but took the chappie some 4 hours as I had an old Randell timer and was struggling with the wiring but got there in the end. Main benefits for me is being able to control the heating remotely which is great when your unsure the time you will be home so saves heating the house unecessarily, I just switch the heating on if I know I'm going to be home in 30 mins or so or set it by geolocation so it senses when your so far from home and the heating kicks in. Also has heating and hot water boost facility, non combi boiler as well as holiday modes and frost protection mode at 7deg. The heating schedules are very easy to set either via the wall thermostat, phone app or desktop hive site. Its also nice if you want to control the heating from bed :lol: I know nothing about the Tado and the Nest is slightly different as I think it learns your commings and goings from the house and adjusts the heating accordingly. I'm currently waiting for British Gas to bring out their smart plugs which can be controlled through Hive hub so you can switch on electrical appliances on and off remotely. All in all the equipment has been very reliable although reading customer feedbacks some have experienced connection problems but sounds more like they have lousy internet connection.

The Hive 2 wall Thermostat also looks pretty good, although I had to fork out an extra 99 quid as it only came out in September. You can change the thermostat frame to match your decor :lol: Its an awful lot better than the original thermostat as it acts like a traditional thermostat with a twisty knob. The original had plus and minus buttons if you wanted to change the temperature which was pretty clunky,

The Hive Thermostat is battery powered only which is supposed to last 2 years however it means you can place it where you want it, the Nest is hardwired which might limit where you can place it.



Tim.

 

[markplant]

I'm also thinking hive like the current display,
I did have a go at building one using a raspberry pi an a guide from
http://www.stuff.tv/features/how-build-homemade-nest-thermostat?utm_content=buffer63b7c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=plus.google.com&utm_campaign=brand+awareness
But its very buggy
With help from sk93 it got more reliable, but didn't want to keep bugging Ian

 

[buzyg]

We have central heating from the stone age. There's a on and off switch and that's about it.

Enjoy your tech. :wink:

 

[pvr]

I thought your heating was controlled via the power cuts you get? oke:

 

[TonyP]

This topic is something I'm interested in, also home automation in general too.

I've got my electric garage door connected to a WeMo Maker so that I can see whether it's open or closed remotely plus I get an alert when it is opened & shut, also my sons 'tech' is connected to a WeMo Insight so that I can monitor the daily usage (& cruelly switch it off :evil: ), amazing/irritating to see that his PS4, TV, PC & Monitor & desk fan is pulling >300 watts when it's all on.

For CH thermostats I'd be more swayed by the ones that can integrate with IFTTT which is Nest & Tado, I'm not worried that the Nest only controls the CH & not HW too as the tank stat takes care of keeping the domestic hot water up to temp.

 

[oli445]

I have the nest and love it!

 

[buzyg]

amazing/irritating to see that his PS4, TV, PC & Monitor & desk fan is pulling >300 watts when it's all on.

What ever you do never buy him a large fish tank. :wink:

 

[buzyg]

I thought your heating was controlled via the power cuts you get? oke:

We have lots of wind mills to fill in the gaps now. Some daft European idea.