Migrant crises

[ronk]

When local councils take on the responsibility of looking after refugees - where does the money come from ?
Council tax rises are capped, councils are having to make cuts, yet we are to look after 1000's of refugees?

 

[dans6490]

Seeing this hornets nest was initially stirred up (predominantly)by America in Iraq and Afghanistan, I can't understand why they're not taking a large portion of the economic migrants. They surely have the space for some and could take some back when the many U.S. Military planes and ships return home.

 

[jimmybell]

It'll either be jobs or benefits won't it?

And what about housing......is there enough to support them?

I think you underestimate the work ethic of the entire planet outside the lazy british benefits club (which obviously doesn't apply to EVERYONE on benefits). Benefits shouldn't be a choice.

Working in the culturally diverse city of London for the past 41 years I've worked with people from all over the world so don't really understand your assumption.

Wasn't suggesting that we're expecting an influx of scroungers but until we know a bit more about the job opportunities if and when they're granted asylum then they're going to require some financial assistance.

With over 1.4 million households on the Council House waiting list in London alone and the shortage of affordable housing and the high price of renting I think my question on housing was relevant.

Surely they can apply for any job opportunities we locals would apply for?

I mean, the govt should be able come up with a reasonable system to provide temporary accom and some sort of job finding assistance. They probably arent capable, but they should be. It's all issues that have to be solved, versus turning them away.

 

[TitanTim]

When local councils take on the responsibility of looking after refugees - where does the money come from ?
Council tax rises are capped, councils are having to make cuts, yet we are to look after 1000's of refugees?

Central Gov't is supposidly making extra funds available for Local Authorities which I think is coming out of the UN refugee find, how much and for how long who knows but however you look at it that funding won't last forever.

Tim.

 

[ronk]

When local councils take on the responsibility of looking after refugees - where does the money come from ?
Council tax rises are capped, councils are having to make cuts, yet we are to look after 1000's of refugees?

Central Gov't is supposidly making extra funds available for Local Authorities which I think is coming out of the UN refugee find, how much and for how long who knows but however you look at it that funding won't last forever.

I thought that the funding from central government was only for one year and from the foreign aid budget?

 

[Nanu]

On the news today it was suggested that the offer to take these refugees was only on a 5 year basis after which they would have to apply for asylum like everyone else. That would mean that until they are granted asylum they cannotwork as they will no be able to obtain an NI number. No work for 5 years at least and unable to make a living for themselves, we all know what that means.

 

[pvr]

So … latest news is that the father of the Syrian boy that drowned was actually the people smuggler…

 

[ronk]

Have you noticed it's nearly all men ?
If I were In a situation like they say they are in, I wouldn't be leaving my wife and child alone to the Isis mob.

 

[TitanTim]

Have you noticed it's nearly all men ?
If I were In a situation like they say they are in, I wouldn't be leaving my wife and child alone to the Isis mob.

You know why that is don't you? because once they're on benefits that you and I will be helping to pay, said money will be going back to the terrorists sorry family back in Syria.

Tim.

 

[ronk]

Have you noticed it's nearly all men ?
If I were In a situation like they say they are in, I wouldn't be leaving my wife and child alone to the Isis mob.

You know why that is don't you? because once they're on benefits that you and I will be helping to pay, said money will be going back to the terrorists sorry family back in Syria.

Well it does make me wonder!

We could all be inviting an army into our midst.

 

[Nictrix]

When Britain went to war young men had to fight for their country whether they wanted to or not.
Why cant these young able men fight for their own country instead of running away?
I can understand that their country is torn but what is the endgame? Every single Syrian just leaving their country behind?
They basically have a large army of men leaving the country instead of fighting for it.

 

[TitanTim]

Have you noticed it's nearly all men ?
If I were In a situation like they say they are in, I wouldn't be leaving my wife and child alone to the Isis mob.

You know why that is don't you? because once they're on benefits that you and I will be helping to pay, said money will be going back to the terrorists sorry family back in Syria.

Well it does make me wonder!

We could all be inviting an army into our midst.

My sentiments exactly Ronk but as were being selective i.e. only taking refugees from the Camps outside Syria them hopefully they will be genuine. I don't know about Germany though and what process they have in checking all the people flooding into the country, surely they will have to go through that process.

Tim.

 

[TitanTim]

When Britain went to war young men had to fight for their country whether they wanted to or not.
Why cant these young able men fight for their own country instead of running away?
I can understand that their country is torn but what is the endgame? Every single Syrian just leaving their country behind?
They basically have a large army of men leaving the country instead of fighting for it.

I don't know anything really about the war in Syria but I'm guessing the problem is who do you fight for? The regime Gov't , the rebels? Isis? It seems to be there are other factions fighting in Syria so guess its not that straight forward as it was here in WW2. But I agree with Ronk, these young men must have left family behind.

Tim.

 

[ronk]

A man would normally fight to the bitter end to protect his children - I would.

 

[pvr]

Germany has a track record for dealing with population groups they don't like, so if it ever becomes a problem ...

 

[john-e89]

Germany has a track record for dealing with population groups they don't like, so if it ever becomes a problem ...

No no no...they would need a crackpot dictator to do that....

....oh yeah... I see what you mean...

 

[pvr]

Saw this one published, interesting:

This is the tent city in Mina for all the pilgrims to Mecca (approx 8 km from Mecca)
The tents are made of fire-resistant materials and all have A/C.
Every tent has speakers, thermostats and fire alarm.
A total of 3 million people can be accommodated.
Would it not be the perfect city for all the Muslims fleeing their countries? And much closer?

 

[TitanTim]

I guess it was only a matter of time before the rioting kicked off. Kinda Pi$$ed me off UNICEFs comments towards Hungary.

I see the young men are all for fighting outside their own Country.

Tim.

 

[exdos]

When Britain went to war young men had to fight for their country whether they wanted to or not.
Why cant these young able men fight for their own country instead of running away?
I can understand that their country is torn but what is the endgame? Every single Syrian just leaving their country behind?
They basically have a large army of men leaving the country instead of fighting for it.

That's the most pertinent point in this thread. If it hadn't been for the brave men who fought against Hitler's mob, there would be no Europe for these people to come to.

 

[Carol M]

When Britain went to war young men had to fight for their country whether they wanted to or not.
Why cant these young able men fight for their own country instead of running away?
I can understand that their country is torn but what is the endgame? Every single Syrian just leaving their country behind?
They basically have a large army of men leaving the country instead of fighting for it.

That's the most pertinent point in this thread. If it hadn't been for the brave men who fought against Hitler's mob, there would be no Europe for these peole to come to.

Bang on, both quotes.