How fast can an E89 go? Part Deux!
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john-e89 said:B21 said:buzyg said:Just need for Beedub to give us the BHP figure for his MR roof up now and we will have a theoretical winner. :evil::wink:
Yes that would be good..the more the merrier...given that the stock Z4M in 5th is over-revving to get to 176mph then in top gear with all that extra power it should pull comfortably..ideally a dyno print out would help..
Pretty sure Beedubs car is circa 550bhp at full boost.
The most powerful supercharged Z4M I found makes 472 BHP at the wheels, not sure if this is the same unit as Beedubs…but
The max speed of the Z4M in 6 th is predicted to be 201 at 8,000 rpm if it could pull it..
Based on the shape of the BHP curve and taking into account that given the Z4M drag then it looks like this combo would indeed hit 201 mph and with 50 BHP to spare with some authority.
So unless a 35is or M40i changes some aspect of its gearing the supercharged Z4M with more than 425 BHP at rear wheels is top trumps
Of course that’s irrelevant to the question posed as it wasn’t an E89
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buzyg said:Lovin this thread.
Without serious modification I suspect an E85 would take off well before 201 mph.
It is so so theoretical…all sorts of issues come to mind…
Speed rating of tyres
As you say aerodynamic stability, the Z4M has quite dirty aerodynamics compared to the e89 and of course the G29 is the best
Effects on the engine of running that level of power with cooling systems designed for a lower power
It would be a brave man…not for me..not sure where you could go to max it out…former space shuttle landing strip?
If you look at the YouTube of a re-mapped Z40Mi running upto an indicated 180 mph on an autobahn it’s pretty scary with the ‘what it it goes wrong’…you can see the driver lifting off as he chickens out despite the car obviously ready to keep on going
B21 said:john-e89 said:B21 said:Yes that would be good..the more the merrier...given that the stock Z4M in 5th is over-revving to get to 176mph then in top gear with all that extra power it should pull comfortably..ideally a dyno print out would help..
Pretty sure Beedubs car is circa 550bhp at full boost.
The most powerful supercharged Z4M I found makes 472 BHP at the wheels, not sure if this is the same unit as Beedubs…but
The max speed of the Z4M in 6 th is predicted to be 201 at 8,000 rpm if it could pull it..
Based on the shape of the BHP curve and taking into account that given the Z4M drag then it looks like this combo would indeed hit 201 mph and with 50 BHP to spare with some authority.
So unless a 35is or M40i changes some aspect of its gearing the supercharged Z4M with more than 425 BHP at rear wheels is top trumps
Of course that’s irrelevant to the question posed as it wasn’t an E89
if this makes no sense, bare with me, im autistic and struggle to type this amount of words.
im off work for a cheeky bit of holiday with my son ive seen my car mentioned afew times now... so thought id chime in here as i am in a position where i get to drive ALOT of high end vehicles... current car in the shop is a GT3 RS 2016 model which i've had the pleasure of collecting on a few occasions now. I own a 2021 rsq3 sport back , the z4m which is hugely upgraded pretty much nothing untouched, last dyno was 557hp with a tune upgrade plus new exhaust with 100 CELL cats spraying water/meth as a charge cooler only ,( it weights 1389 KG with the carbon seats ) and my fave my trusty 90hp 56 plate connect with that glorious old 1.8TD lynx engine that i just love revving out and getting the van to dance ( im being serious)
. ive finally been able to drive a new z4msport infact an ACS car with the FULL work, the kit, the wheels, suspension, engine upgrades and guys..... let me tell , this thing was a BEAST. I'm not sure how different this is to a stock z4 40i so i can only comment on the car i had at the shop. power was just sooooo silky, with the gearbox giving an effect of one long gear. I can see why this engine is so well received in the tuning world, its utterly glorious . Handling i can't comment too much as this is an expensive car not owned by me but from what i felt it was supple and well controlled if lacking feel in the steering, did it say this thing was RAPID, i mean rapid.
Comparing to my car is rather unfair as this is my was a no expense clubsport build with some serious upgrades and some serious coin in it to get it where it is... its a very special vehicle and something i truly adore. Tf these two were to go head to head on the track not contest, no question about it my car would absolutely kill it BUT..... on a bumpy back road the likes of my car, the GT3 in the shop just cant compete IMO , from what i felt from the ACS z4 id probably kill myself trying to keep up on a bumpy back road, now if things smooth out then ,
... but as an everyday preposition cars like mine, like the gt3 are just ..... very hampered, the gt3 which is soooo epic feel HUGE and so stiff id worry about it on a back road , infact i actually don't like how big it feels in general and quick peak underneath and the damage is visible where its kissing the road all too often. One of my poster cars that left me feeling slightly underwhelmed on your average road, no doubt insane in the right conditions. The z4 i drove would more than likely leave my car and the gt3 for dead on the type of roads that you guys drive and love on these meets, i actually think my q3 RS would do a much better job of keeping up with its softer suspension, Tq rich motor and dual clutch box. My high revving car jus feels like the grim reaper is sitting on your shoulder. As for a stock z4m , its no match for a 40i in my opinion... i prefer the s54 absolutely , but .... in terms of grunt, the s54 has no answer to that Tq and the elastic like power band that never seems to end it reminds me of a tesla lol, but to me the s54 is worthy of the gt3 ilk of engine, its special, exotic .... i plan to get upto scotland at some point this year and bring the old girl with me or at least my rs q3 and have a play ( im not quite sure i could stand driving the z4m 8hrs lol) but if i do take the z4m.... i look forward to giving it a real test and taking it out of its comfort zone. it is without doubt still one of the quickest car ive driven in the right circumstances. I plan to actually get some proper videos of it this year after its been re PPFd at work.
lastly i hope this makes some sense. lol
Thanks for chipping in Beedubs. Really enjoyed reading your post. Great to read the business is doing well too.Beedub said:B21 said:john-e89 said:
The most powerful supercharged Z4M I found makes 472 BHP at the wheels, not sure if this is the same unit as Beedubs…but
The max speed of the Z4M in 6 th is predicted to be 201 at 8,000 rpm if it could pull it..
Based on the shape of the BHP curve and taking into account that given the Z4M drag then it looks like this combo would indeed hit 201 mph and with 50 BHP to spare with some authority.
So unless a 35is or M40i changes some aspect of its gearing the supercharged Z4M with more than 425 BHP at rear wheels is top trumps
Of course that’s irrelevant to the question posed as it wasn’t an E89
if this makes no sense, bare with me, im autistic and struggle to type this amount of words.
lastly i hope this makes some sense. lol
Hi Beedub, thnx for your post..
The discussions were all theoretical relating to one parameter that with some effort could be modelled with some degree of certainty ie top speed based on drag vs power.
In terms of real world use on a public road the ability to get excess power over current road speed down to the road I guess is the encapsulation of what you were saying.
So more compliant suspension to ensure the wheels are making good contact with the road, the ability just to press the throttle and go , clever traction control and then enough stiffness in the chassis to avoid unwanted steering artefacts injecting themselves into the car are key attributes.
Obviously reduction of total mass, reduction in unsprung masses and reduction of polar moments of inertia all help.
The mystery is how much each of those factors contributes to the perfect car are subject to much computation and also the bean counters.
The B58 engine as the 3rd generation of turbo 6 has every attribute BMW have learned…twin scroll turbo chargers, water to air intercooler, variable lift and variable valve timing plus that mega ZF box itself into its 3rd iteration.
So with the marketing and cost restrictions lifted it’s no wonder that the modded car is a vvery capable car on public roads.
The amazing work you’ve done on your E85M is fabulous and reflects what your focus and outcomes that you wanted were.
I guess the open question is if you did that based on a G29 Powertrain what could you do even better?
FWIW my strategy on my cars is to make them very capable on public roads rather than focus on a more track oriented capability.
Hopefully we can meet up when you make your pilgrimage up here
If you do have a dyno print out for our perusal that would be great or if you could point the most representative dyno run that would be great…
The discussions were all theoretical relating to one parameter that with some effort could be modelled with some degree of certainty ie top speed based on drag vs power.
In terms of real world use on a public road the ability to get excess power over current road speed down to the road I guess is the encapsulation of what you were saying.
So more compliant suspension to ensure the wheels are making good contact with the road, the ability just to press the throttle and go , clever traction control and then enough stiffness in the chassis to avoid unwanted steering artefacts injecting themselves into the car are key attributes.
Obviously reduction of total mass, reduction in unsprung masses and reduction of polar moments of inertia all help.
The mystery is how much each of those factors contributes to the perfect car are subject to much computation and also the bean counters.
The B58 engine as the 3rd generation of turbo 6 has every attribute BMW have learned…twin scroll turbo chargers, water to air intercooler, variable lift and variable valve timing plus that mega ZF box itself into its 3rd iteration.
So with the marketing and cost restrictions lifted it’s no wonder that the modded car is a vvery capable car on public roads.
The amazing work you’ve done on your E85M is fabulous and reflects what your focus and outcomes that you wanted were.
I guess the open question is if you did that based on a G29 Powertrain what could you do even better?
FWIW my strategy on my cars is to make them very capable on public roads rather than focus on a more track oriented capability.
Hopefully we can meet up when you make your pilgrimage up here
If you do have a dyno print out for our perusal that would be great or if you could point the most representative dyno run that would be great…
B21 said:Hi Beedub, thnx for your post..
The discussions were all theoretical relating to one parameter that with some effort could be modelled with some degree of certainty ie top speed based on drag vs power.
In terms of real world use on a public road the ability to get excess power over current road speed down to the road I guess is the encapsulation of what you were saying.
So more compliant suspension to ensure the wheels are making good contact with the road, the ability just to press the throttle and go , clever traction control and then enough stiffness in the chassis to avoid unwanted steering artefacts injecting themselves into the car are key attributes.
Obviously reduction of total mass, reduction in unsprung masses and reduction of polar moments of inertia all help.
The mystery is how much each of those factors contributes to the perfect car are subject to much computation and also the bean counters.
The B58 engine as the 3rd generation of turbo 6 has every attribute BMW have learned…twin scroll turbo chargers, water to air intercooler, variable lift and variable valve timing plus that mega ZF box itself into its 3rd iteration.
So with the marketing and cost restrictions lifted it’s no wonder that the modded car is a vvery capable car on public roads.
The amazing work you’ve done on your E85M is fabulous and reflects what your focus and outcomes that you wanted were.
I guess the open question is if you did that based on a G29 Powertrain what could you do even better?
FWIW my strategy on my cars is to make them very capable on public roads rather than focus on a more track oriented capability.
Hopefully we can meet up when you make your pilgrimage up here
If you do have a dyno print out for our perusal that would be great or if you could point the most representative dyno run that would be great…
Thanks buddy ... I'll dig out the final graph when I find time .... But it's literally mimics the stock s54 curve just moved up the chart. Its like a big engine swap .....
If I had to choose which platform to do it with .... I'd still choose the z4m ..... The z4m just feels so small and nimble ... It's comparisons to a cobra
really fit it's personality... It's a bygone era of car that I'm very sad to see go and that engine .... Will forever be one of the all-time greats. I'd love to see some really put some effort in a proper G20 build and I think it would be rather special .
Beedub said:B21 said:john-e89 said:
The most powerful supercharged Z4M I found makes 472 BHP at the wheels, not sure if this is the same unit as Beedubs…but
The max speed of the Z4M in 6 th is predicted to be 201 at 8,000 rpm if it could pull it..
Based on the shape of the BHP curve and taking into account that given the Z4M drag then it looks like this combo would indeed hit 201 mph and with 50 BHP to spare with some authority.
So unless a 35is or M40i changes some aspect of its gearing the supercharged Z4M with more than 425 BHP at rear wheels is top trumps
Of course that’s irrelevant to the question posed as it wasn’t an E89
if this makes no sense, bare with me, im autistic and struggle to type this amount of words.
im off work for a cheeky bit of holiday with my son ive seen my car mentioned afew times now... so thought id chime in here as i am in a position where i get to drive ALOT of high end vehicles... current car in the shop is a GT3 RS 2016 model which i've had the pleasure of collecting on a few occasions now. I own a 2021 rsq3 sport back , the z4m which is hugely upgraded pretty much nothing untouched, last dyno was 557hp with a tune upgrade plus new exhaust with 100 CELL cats spraying water/meth as a charge cooler only ,( it weights 1389 KG with the carbon seats ) and my fave my trusty 90hp 56 plate connect with that glorious old 1.8TD lynx engine that i just love revving out and getting the van to dance ( im being serious)
ive finally been able to drive a new z4msport infact an ACS car with the FULL work, the kit, the wheels, suspension, engine upgrades and guys..... let me tell , this thing was a BEAST. I'm not sure how different this is to a stock z4 40i so i can only comment on the car i had at the shop. power was just sooooo silky, with the gearbox giving an effect of one long gear. I can see why this engine is so well received in the tuning world, its utterly glorious . Handling i can't comment too much as this is an expensive car not owned by me but from what i felt it was supple and well controlled if lacking feel in the steering, did it say this thing was RAPID, i mean rapid.
Comparing to my car is rather unfair as this is my was a no expense clubsport build with some serious upgrades and some serious coin in it to get it where it is... its a very special vehicle and something i truly adore. Tf these two were to go head to head on the track not contest, no question about it my car would absolutely kill it BUT..... on a bumpy back road the likes of my car, the GT3 in the shop just cant compete IMO , from what i felt from the ACS z4 id probably kill myself trying to keep up on a bumpy back road, now if things smooth out then ,
i plan to get upto scotland at some point this year and bring the old girl with me or at least my rs q3 and have a play ( im not quite sure i could stand driving the z4m 8hrs lol) but if i do take the z4m.... i look forward to giving it a real test and taking it out of its comfort zone. it is without doubt still one of the quickest car ive driven in the right circumstances. I plan to actually get some proper videos of it this year after its been re PPFd at work.
lastly i hope this makes some sense. lol
Firstly, I can’t believe you’re already making excuses for not keeping up with me when you come up
:wink: Interesting read and touched on many things we’ve discussed. What I do find interesting is that someone like you with your vast experience of driving many lovely machines, including your own fantastic Z4, is how much you’ve rated the M40i
It’s one thing I’ve been saying since I test drove the M40i that the grunt and acceleration and overtaking abilities were very impressive. I’ve also maintained that coming straight from a 35iS into the M40i that the M40i’s power is understated. On paper they’re almost the same, behind the wheel not IMO.
I was alway a manual gearbox driver by choice but the box in this has definitely changed my mind. I have absolutely no doubt the box in my current car can do things much quicker than I can and I don’t miss it not being a manual, the flappy paddles suffice when I feel the need. I also fully get what you’re saying about one long gear. Even at full chat in sports mode it’s seemless, you hardly feel the gear change and the power just keeps coming. On the sort of roads I’m driving on you definitely run out of either road or ability before the car reaches anywhere near its limits :lol: so far I’ve not once been left wishing I had more power so can only imagine how quick the ACS is and even though I’m seriously considering it for the next one I don’t know if I’d get much benefit from the extra go so undecided as to whether it’d be worthwhile. That and no warranty after the 3 yrs :thumbsdown:
I do want to get mine onto a rolling road at some point, not for bragging rights or a pissing contest just because I’m interested in whether it’s putting out what BMW says or more, just pure curiosity.
The one G29 that has me in complete awe is [ref]raven[/ref], one. The colour is stunning, by far the nicest one I’ve seen yet and the thing that seems to slip under the radar is that it’s running 440bhp, (so 40 more than the one you drove) and also a very healthy chunk more torque) As far as I’m concerned that’s the benchmark in my eyes :wub:
Even though you are giving it a great endorsement I fully get your love for the S54
The final question would have to be if they did a full blown M G29 would you buy one?
Beedub said:B21 said:john-e89 said:
The most powerful supercharged Z4M I found makes 472 BHP at the wheels, not sure if this is the same unit as Beedubs…but
The max speed of the Z4M in 6 th is predicted to be 201 at 8,000 rpm if it could pull it..
Based on the shape of the BHP curve and taking into account that given the Z4M drag then it looks like this combo would indeed hit 201 mph and with 50 BHP to spare with some authority.
So unless a 35is or M40i changes some aspect of its gearing the supercharged Z4M with more than 425 BHP at rear wheels is top trumps
Of course that’s irrelevant to the question posed as it wasn’t an E89
if this makes no sense, bare with me, im autistic and struggle to type this amount of words.
im off work for a cheeky bit of holiday with my son ive seen my car mentioned afew times now... so thought id chime in here as i am in a position where i get to drive ALOT of high end vehicles... current car in the shop is a GT3 RS 2016 model which i've had the pleasure of collecting on a few occasions now. I own a 2021 rsq3 sport back , the z4m which is hugely upgraded pretty much nothing untouched, last dyno was 557hp with a tune upgrade plus new exhaust with 100 CELL cats spraying water/meth as a charge cooler only ,( it weights 1389 KG with the carbon seats ) and my fave my trusty 90hp 56 plate connect with that glorious old 1.8TD lynx engine that i just love revving out and getting the van to dance ( im being serious)
ive finally been able to drive a new z4msport infact an ACS car with the FULL work, the kit, the wheels, suspension, engine upgrades and guys..... let me tell , this thing was a BEAST. I'm not sure how different this is to a stock z4 40i so i can only comment on the car i had at the shop. power was just sooooo silky, with the gearbox giving an effect of one long gear. I can see why this engine is so well received in the tuning world, its utterly glorious . Handling i can't comment too much as this is an expensive car not owned by me but from what i felt it was supple and well controlled if lacking feel in the steering, did it say this thing was RAPID, i mean rapid.
Comparing to my car is rather unfair as this is my was a no expense clubsport build with some serious upgrades and some serious coin in it to get it where it is... its a very special vehicle and something i truly adore. Tf these two were to go head to head on the track not contest, no question about it my car would absolutely kill it BUT..... on a bumpy back road the likes of my car, the GT3 in the shop just cant compete IMO , from what i felt from the ACS z4 id probably kill myself trying to keep up on a bumpy back road, now if things smooth out then ,
i plan to get upto scotland at some point this year and bring the old girl with me or at least my rs q3 and have a play ( im not quite sure i could stand driving the z4m 8hrs lol) but if i do take the z4m.... i look forward to giving it a real test and taking it out of its comfort zone. it is without doubt still one of the quickest car ive driven in the right circumstances. I plan to actually get some proper videos of it this year after its been re PPFd at work.
lastly i hope this makes some sense. lol
Hi Byron,
Hopefully you bring the z4m supercharged with you to Scotland,as I t would be great to finally see it,and yourself.
As said in previous chat with you,let us know when you're coming up,and we can finally meet up,lol
Re the z4m,I think it's very capable at high speeds,bit as you say,it feels like the Grim reaper ins toon your as shoulder at times,but I Love that raw edge to it.
Look forward to catching up with you soon mate
And we can even go for a drive if yu fancy it
Fast yes but just not alive enough for me. Argyll Andy said:Beedub said:B21 said:The most powerful supercharged Z4M I found makes 472 BHP at the wheels, not sure if this is the same unit as Beedubs…but
The max speed of the Z4M in 6 th is predicted to be 201 at 8,000 rpm if it could pull it..
Based on the shape of the BHP curve and taking into account that given the Z4M drag then it looks like this combo would indeed hit 201 mph and with 50 BHP to spare with some authority.
So unless a 35is or M40i changes some aspect of its gearing the supercharged Z4M with more than 425 BHP at rear wheels is top trumps
Of course that’s irrelevant to the question posed as it wasn’t an E89
if this makes no sense, bare with me, im autistic and struggle to type this amount of words.
im off work for a cheeky bit of holiday with my son ive seen my car mentioned afew times now... so thought id chime in here as i am in a position where i get to drive ALOT of high end vehicles... current car in the shop is a GT3 RS 2016 model which i've had the pleasure of collecting on a few occasions now. I own a 2021 rsq3 sport back , the z4m which is hugely upgraded pretty much nothing untouched, last dyno was 557hp with a tune upgrade plus new exhaust with 100 CELL cats spraying water/meth as a charge cooler only ,( it weights 1389 KG with the carbon seats ) and my fave my trusty 90hp 56 plate connect with that glorious old 1.8TD lynx engine that i just love revving out and getting the van to dance ( im being serious)
ive finally been able to drive a new z4msport infact an ACS car with the FULL work, the kit, the wheels, suspension, engine upgrades and guys..... let me tell , this thing was a BEAST. I'm not sure how different this is to a stock z4 40i so i can only comment on the car i had at the shop. power was just sooooo silky, with the gearbox giving an effect of one long gear. I can see why this engine is so well received in the tuning world, its utterly glorious . Handling i can't comment too much as this is an expensive car not owned by me but from what i felt it was supple and well controlled if lacking feel in the steering, did it say this thing was RAPID, i mean rapid.
Comparing to my car is rather unfair as this is my was a no expense clubsport build with some serious upgrades and some serious coin in it to get it where it is... its a very special vehicle and something i truly adore. Tf these two were to go head to head on the track not contest, no question about it my car would absolutely kill it BUT..... on a bumpy back road the likes of my car, the GT3 in the shop just cant compete IMO , from what i felt from the ACS z4 id probably kill myself trying to keep up on a bumpy back road, now if things smooth out then ,
i plan to get upto scotland at some point this year and bring the old girl with me or at least my rs q3 and have a play ( im not quite sure i could stand driving the z4m 8hrs lol) but if i do take the z4m.... i look forward to giving it a real test and taking it out of its comfort zone. it is without doubt still one of the quickest car ive driven in the right circumstances. I plan to actually get some proper videos of it this year after its been re PPFd at work.
lastly i hope this makes some sense. lol
Firstly, I can’t believe you’re already making excuses for not keeping up with me when you come up
Interesting read and touched on many things we’ve discussed. What I do find interesting is that someone like you with your vast experience of driving many lovely machines, including your own fantastic Z4, is how much you’ve rated the M40i
It’s one thing I’ve been saying since I test drove the M40i that the grunt and acceleration and overtaking abilities were very impressive. I’ve also maintained that coming straight from a 35iS into the M40i that the M40i’s power is understated. On paper they’re almost the same, behind the wheel not IMO.
I was alway a manual gearbox driver by choice but the box in this has definitely changed my mind. I have absolutely no doubt the box in my current car can do things much quicker than I can and I don’t miss it not being a manual, the flappy paddles suffice when I feel the need. I also fully get what you’re saying about one long gear. Even at full chat in sports mode it’s seemless, you hardly feel the gear change and the power just keeps coming. On the sort of roads I’m driving on you definitely run out of either road or ability before the car reaches anywhere near its limits :lol: so far I’ve not once been left wishing I had more power so can only imagine how quick the ACS is and even though I’m seriously considering it for the next one I don’t know if I’d get much benefit from the extra go so undecided as to whether it’d be worthwhile. That and no warranty after the 3 yrs :thumbsdown:
I do want to get mine onto a rolling road at some point, not for bragging rights or a pissing contest just because I’m interested in whether it’s putting out what BMW says or more, just pure curiosity.
The one G29 that has me in complete awe is [ref]raven[/ref], one. The colour is stunning, by far the nicest one I’ve seen yet and the thing that seems to slip under the radar is that it’s running 440bhp, (so 40 more than the one you drove) and also a very healthy chunk more torque) As far as I’m concerned that’s the benchmark in my eyes :wub:
Even though you are giving it a great endorsement I fully get your love for the S54
The final question would have to be if they did a full blown M G29 would you buy one?
no excuses, im pretty certain within the right circumstance my car would deal with most..... but theirs also places where i no its too hardcore also.
if bmw made a a g29 ///M i would order it right now. but they never will.....
craig3.2 said:Beedub said:B21 said:The most powerful supercharged Z4M I found makes 472 BHP at the wheels, not sure if this is the same unit as Beedubs…but
The max speed of the Z4M in 6 th is predicted to be 201 at 8,000 rpm if it could pull it..
Based on the shape of the BHP curve and taking into account that given the Z4M drag then it looks like this combo would indeed hit 201 mph and with 50 BHP to spare with some authority.
So unless a 35is or M40i changes some aspect of its gearing the supercharged Z4M with more than 425 BHP at rear wheels is top trumps
Of course that’s irrelevant to the question posed as it wasn’t an E89
if this makes no sense, bare with me, im autistic and struggle to type this amount of words.
im off work for a cheeky bit of holiday with my son ive seen my car mentioned afew times now... so thought id chime in here as i am in a position where i get to drive ALOT of high end vehicles... current car in the shop is a GT3 RS 2016 model which i've had the pleasure of collecting on a few occasions now. I own a 2021 rsq3 sport back , the z4m which is hugely upgraded pretty much nothing untouched, last dyno was 557hp with a tune upgrade plus new exhaust with 100 CELL cats spraying water/meth as a charge cooler only ,( it weights 1389 KG with the carbon seats ) and my fave my trusty 90hp 56 plate connect with that glorious old 1.8TD lynx engine that i just love revving out and getting the van to dance ( im being serious)
ive finally been able to drive a new z4msport infact an ACS car with the FULL work, the kit, the wheels, suspension, engine upgrades and guys..... let me tell , this thing was a BEAST. I'm not sure how different this is to a stock z4 40i so i can only comment on the car i had at the shop. power was just sooooo silky, with the gearbox giving an effect of one long gear. I can see why this engine is so well received in the tuning world, its utterly glorious . Handling i can't comment too much as this is an expensive car not owned by me but from what i felt it was supple and well controlled if lacking feel in the steering, did it say this thing was RAPID, i mean rapid.
Comparing to my car is rather unfair as this is my was a no expense clubsport build with some serious upgrades and some serious coin in it to get it where it is... its a very special vehicle and something i truly adore. Tf these two were to go head to head on the track not contest, no question about it my car would absolutely kill it BUT..... on a bumpy back road the likes of my car, the GT3 in the shop just cant compete IMO , from what i felt from the ACS z4 id probably kill myself trying to keep up on a bumpy back road, now if things smooth out then ,
i plan to get upto scotland at some point this year and bring the old girl with me or at least my rs q3 and have a play ( im not quite sure i could stand driving the z4m 8hrs lol) but if i do take the z4m.... i look forward to giving it a real test and taking it out of its comfort zone. it is without doubt still one of the quickest car ive driven in the right circumstances. I plan to actually get some proper videos of it this year after its been re PPFd at work.
lastly i hope this makes some sense. lol
Hi Byron,
Hopefully you bring the z4m supercharged with you to Scotland,as I t would be great to finally see it,and yourself.
As said in previous chat with you,let us know when you're coming up,and we can finally meet up,lol
Re the z4m,I think it's very capable at high speeds,bit as you say,it feels like the Grim reaper ins toon your as shoulder at times,but I Love that raw edge to it.
Look forward to catching up with you soon mate
And we can even go for a drive if yu fancy it
hey craig,
yes i agree very capable its important to note im talking about my particular build which is a different kettle of fish.... with such power on tap the liberties that can be taken are definitely less. But for me..... the s54 z4m with the right mods is just a very special thing indeed and i would not trade one for a g29.... or shall i say i certain wouldn't trade my car for a g29.
Beedub said:
I know you’re not making excuses just can’t resist you to try and make myself think I’ve half a chance of keeping up with you I’m hoping you bring the van :wink: The individual road and their condition would definitely dictate your progression for sureNo, no chance they’ll make one. As was discussed recently this type of car is dying a having a rather rapid demise. New two seater sports cars will be a thing of the past very shortly. At best it will be a convertible version of an electric saloon/hatch
i think you guys are all in a great position with these m40is , love them, enjoy them , their LOTS of great mods for it / supra make them individual... on a side note id LOVE to see one up against a like for like z4m ( stock ) on a variety of different roads etc. would be so interesting .....
