FS: Z4MC in Ruby Black & Champagne - £18,499 ONO (new pics)
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mmm-five said:The good news is:
Finally got some outstanding invoices paid yesterday, so that reduces my urgency to sell
The bad news is:
I know I'll need new rear tyres soon (3-4mm left)
The good news is:
I have seen BMW spec PS2s for £190 each
Tony - May be able to help you with the tyre problem - got a set of four in my garden now that I've put some winter's on - I'll check depths etc. and get back to you.
IIRC, I did a while ago, and then there was some discussion about swapping a whole set of wheels around with another guy who wanted them for a trackday/winter set.Guiseley said:mmm-five said:
OK - I'll probably pop mine on the buy / sell forum and see if I get any takers for the full set - feel free to make an offer for just the rearsand I might get lucky with someone who wants the fronts.
Used the same forum name for quite a while. Used to be on ClubVR6 and Corrado Club GB with Corrado.markos said:Lovely car buddy, I recognise your name from looong ago, did you used to have a VR6 Corrado by any chance?
Just got my E46 M3 convertible for sale and when that shifts I'll be looking for a black Z4MC
Still miss it's reliability over the e34 M5s I've owned, but the M5 was a great all-rounder, and I'd have another one in a moment if I won the lottery.
Due to broken promises from a client, the monies I was promised "before Christmas, guaranteed" (work done in Jun-Aug) hasn't arrived and I'm going to put the car back up for sale just in case.
Hopefully it will be sorted quickly, but due to the invoices going through a 3rd party, I have no direct contract with the end-client and cannot legally force their hand, and I've got a good relationship with the 3rd party so I don't want to force them to get legal on the client - and the 3rd party's contract with me is clear around the fact that I won't get paid until they do - which has been fine until this last client.
Hopefully it will be sorted quickly, but due to the invoices going through a 3rd party, I have no direct contract with the end-client and cannot legally force their hand, and I've got a good relationship with the 3rd party so I don't want to force them to get legal on the client - and the 3rd party's contract with me is clear around the fact that I won't get paid until they do - which has been fine until this last client.
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mmm-five said:
Sorry but I think you need to expand your client base (and fast) the above are just messing you about.
Not struck on your contract either,
you're on a 'hiding to nothing' I'm afraid.
I've got multiple clients, but I've been working at this one for 7 years (on & off of course). It's just that since the beginning of 2010 they implemented a new system for paying contractors, which works well for their multi-million pound contractors, but not for us small-fry, and the accounts department don't particularly care as their KPIs are around amount & value of invoices paid, so the small-fry ones are bottom of their priority list and get passed around as people go on leave, sick, etc.Kryton said:Sorry but I think you need to expand your client base (and fast) the above are just messing you about.
Not struck on your contract either,
I used to invoice directly and knew where I stood regarding terms & conditions, but since they implemented their 'approved supplier' policy I cannot bill directly and have to go through a 3rd party. So I chose the 3rd party that I've already got a sub-consultant agreement with and has worked well with other clients for the last 10 years. It's just that when a problem like this arises the 3rd party doesn't want to lose their 'approved supplier' status by complaining, but I'm stuck with and agreement which means the 3rd party won't pay until their invoice is paid (they pay me the day after they receive payment).
I had the choice a few years ago of moving over to their 'guaranteed payment' agreement, but as I'd not had a problem for 6-7 years I didn't think it was work the extra fees they charge for the guarantee (about an extra £50 a week).
If they don't pay us and we remove our services then they get someone else, as they assume that their under-utilised consultants can do what we do (some of them can, but not as efficiently or with any creative flair). They can't afford to do that to the big contractors as they'll just down tools and you end up with a half-built motorway bridge
I've got other clients giving me work here & there (and one who pays invoices the day after they're submitted), and got a nice lump from my work on the sale of HS1 to the Canadians, but that just helped stave off the shorter & shorter projects, and shorter working weeks (3 days instead of 5) that some clients are running. So for the last 2 years I've probably been on 50% of my normal income - which is already based on a 39 week year (August & December are usually quiet, and then you've got to take off all the bank holidays for the different countries).
I was just about to ask if you were still after around £19k, incase I'm in the market in a few weeks, but it's still out of my price range
I sense you're still in no great hurry to sell, even if work is a bit short. I wouldn't be either with such a nice car.
I sense you're still in no great hurry to sell, even if work is a bit short. I wouldn't be either with such a nice car.
I don't want to sell it at all, but needs must and all thatHerminator said:I was just about to ask if you were still after around £19k, incase I'm in the market in a few weeks, but it's still out of my price range
I sense you're still in no great hurry to sell, even if work is a bit short. I wouldn't be either with such a nice car.
The price might drop slowly over the coming months as I get desperate, but if I get even half of what I'm owed from this client it'll stay at £19k for a lot longer. Luckily I've got not tax/mot/insurance to worry about for a while.
Now that Christmas is over I can think about getting it properly polished/corrected and start of the minuscule snag list:
- tiny stone chips that I've picked up over the winter
- tiny ding in door foot plate which just requires removal, dent removal & refitting
- another Rain-X treatment (salt & grime do not flow off as easily as rain)
- new wipers
- tyre dust cap replacement (currently got cheap black plastic ones on for winter, as kids on bikes have stole all my metal ones)
- snapped petrol cap holder
- polystyrene cover over the battery
Only three months until spring and maybe the market will pick up ready for the summer months.
Consider taking it off the market until March so it looks like it's just come on the market when the market picks up rather than one that's been advertised for a while. It's BS I know but you know what people are like, wll try to find any reason to shaft ya on price.
Consider taking it off the market until March so it looks like it's just come on the market when the market picks up rather than one that's been advertised for a while. It's BS I know but you know what people are like, wll try to find any reason to shaft ya on price.
Slight digression from topic but i think its relevant to this thread. Did anyone see the article in Autocar recently about buying the Z3M Coupe ? It made interesting reading.
A mint 2002 S54 with low mileage (27k) was up at £21k and the article was suggesting that was about the norm for that mileage and condition. A 2002 with 81k was £14.5k. Prices for the S52's were considerably lower due to their age and also the market's perception on their reliability (particularly VANOS) - A 2000 in yellow with 35k miles was £16k, a 2000 (yellow) with 57k was £12k and a 1999 with 64k was £13k.
According to Autocar they made 6,318 M Coupes in total (LHD & RHD combined) I thought that seemed a lot ?? I couldn't help thinking that if they DID make 6,318 M Coupes and they were fetching these prices what will our Z4MC's be worth in 2-3 years time...
I should say that none of those prices were at BMW Main dealers (all Indi's)
I think it makes Mmm-five's car a steal personally.
A mint 2002 S54 with low mileage (27k) was up at £21k and the article was suggesting that was about the norm for that mileage and condition. A 2002 with 81k was £14.5k. Prices for the S52's were considerably lower due to their age and also the market's perception on their reliability (particularly VANOS) - A 2000 in yellow with 35k miles was £16k, a 2000 (yellow) with 57k was £12k and a 1999 with 64k was £13k.
According to Autocar they made 6,318 M Coupes in total (LHD & RHD combined) I thought that seemed a lot ?? I couldn't help thinking that if they DID make 6,318 M Coupes and they were fetching these prices what will our Z4MC's be worth in 2-3 years time...
I should say that none of those prices were at BMW Main dealers (all Indi's)
I think it makes Mmm-five's car a steal personally.
It was removed from Pistonheads, Autotrader & eBay motors at the end of November, as I assumed most people wouldn't want to be looking in the dark & cold. I'm glad I did actually as it meant I didn't have to clean it each time I'd driven it.
Wasn't planning in putting it up for sale again so soon,if at all.
Wasn't planning in putting it up for sale again so soon,if at all.
To save corrupting DGW's for sale thread, I'll continue my rant here...
I believe the current potential buyers are simply using anything they can find as a negotiation tool to get me to sell my car much more cheaply than I want to.
Unfortunately it isn't going to work, as I know how little needs doing on the car, and those bits are being done over the next couple of weeks (e.g being detailed, two stone chips being repaired, metal valve caps ready to go on, fuel cap 'rubber wire' ready to be replaced). The driver's sillplate isn't being replaced as the ding is almost invisible.
Even the scheduled brake fluid and coolant changes that are 'missing' from the service book. The car doesn't need a coolant change as the engine is only 18 months old, not 4 years, but I'm going to get it done to appease potential buyers. Same goes for the brake fluid change, as it was replaced with DOT 4.1 about 14 months ago when I put on new discs & pads.
I believe the current potential buyers are simply using anything they can find as a negotiation tool to get me to sell my car much more cheaply than I want to.
Unfortunately it isn't going to work, as I know how little needs doing on the car, and those bits are being done over the next couple of weeks (e.g being detailed, two stone chips being repaired, metal valve caps ready to go on, fuel cap 'rubber wire' ready to be replaced). The driver's sillplate isn't being replaced as the ding is almost invisible.
Even the scheduled brake fluid and coolant changes that are 'missing' from the service book. The car doesn't need a coolant change as the engine is only 18 months old, not 4 years, but I'm going to get it done to appease potential buyers. Same goes for the brake fluid change, as it was replaced with DOT 4.1 about 14 months ago when I put on new discs & pads.