Eventuri VAI Carbon Intake Kit for the Z4M details

exdos said:
BMWZ4MC said:
Would be interesting to compare them both with my aFe intake - it's not as pretty to look at, but it sounds awesome and was half the price.
I'd also like to compare the GruppeM, the Eventuri, the aFe and my own Ramcharger II mod using ECU datalogging in real world driving conditions: i.e. a 3rd gear acceleration from 2000rpm to the redline.
Most especially if each could be fitted in turn to the same car after datalogging with a standard airbox.
 
Stuart Truman said:
I wonder what the effect will be combined with my modified back boxes...

Stuart, I wondered where you'd gone to?

If there's any gain to be had from any air-intake, then you'll get the best gain with gutted back boxes. :thumbsup:
 
BMWZ4MC said:
exdos said:
BMWZ4MC said:
Would be interesting to compare them both with my aFe intake - it's not as pretty to look at, but it sounds awesome and was half the price.
I'd also like to compare the GruppeM, the Eventuri, the aFe and my own Ramcharger II mod using ECU datalogging in real world driving conditions: i.e. a 3rd gear acceleration from 2000rpm to the redline.
Most especially if each could be fitted in turn to the same car after datalogging with a standard airbox.
It could be done with my car if others would like to bring a GruppeM, an Eventuri and an aFe. :thumbsup:
 
exdos said:
If there's any gain to be had from any air-intake, then you'll get the best gain with gutted back boxes. :thumbsup:

I took a break from the forum after a little too much back biting, El-taco type behaviours and general keyboard warriors. I started popping in just to look for a while and now after the Wales meet decided to join in again. Nice to see the regulars still here.
 
Stuart Truman said:
I took a break from the forum after a little too much back biting, El-taco type behaviours and general keyboard warriors. I started popping in just to look for a while and now after the Wales meet decided to join in again. Nice to see the regulars still here.
I understand. I've had that in the past and it's best to take a step away and let that type burn themselves out.
 
Stuart Truman said:
exdos said:
If there's any gain to be had from any air-intake, then you'll get the best gain with gutted back boxes. :thumbsup:

I took a break from the forum after a little too much back biting, El-taco type behaviours and general keyboard warriors. I started popping in just to look for a while and now after the Wales meet decided to join in again. Nice to see the regulars still here.

Welcome back :thumbsup:
 
Stuart Truman said:
My "ooh shiny" tendencies are in overload. Totally missed this thread having take a bit of a forum break. I can see me buying one of these bad boys. I wonder what the effect will be combined with my modified back boxes...

Having driven in front of Budgie with RPIs last weekend, and having heard your modded backboxes, I'd say you'll definitely hear the difference up front as your exhaust is quite subtle.

Really pleased you've rejoined us :thumbsup:
 
exdos said:
BMWZ4MC said:
...Most especially if each could be fitted in turn to the same car after datalogging with a standard airbox.
It could be done with my car if others would like to bring a GruppeM, an Eventuri and an aFe. :thumbsup:

AndyBeech said:
Where are you located Exdos?

exdos said:
West Midlands


Do I see the possibility of an experiment brewing? :)

Welcome back Mr Truman :thumbsup:
 
Really tempted by this now that I've decided to keep her for another year :driving:
Just bought new discs and pads all round so got my eye on this and a decent strut brace if I can find one.
 
It's apparent I think that there's nobody here who has experience to offer for a comparison against both the GruppeM and the Eventuri. Can anyone from Eventuri offer a sales pitch on why someone should choose your product over a GruppeM, asides from cost?
 
Eventuri said:
Beedub said:
evolve, can I just ask directly do this kit offer any additional benefits in comparison to the gruppe M? since this is your main competitor on the z4m platform at least , what are the benefits of this kit over the gruppe M??


This is a question we have been asked a few times now and here is the difference:

The Gruppe M system is the same type of intake design as found in most aftermarket intakes. By that I mean they use a cone filter mated to the MAF tube and the carbon fibre is just a heat shield surrounding the cone. In this configuration - the airflow has to negotiate a path from the large diameter at the base of the filter through to the smaller diameter of the MAF tube in a relatively short distance. This is not great for aerodynamic efficiency as you will get dead spots and some turbulent effects.

The Eventuri is a new type of intake design which is patent pending and this is why: We use a cone filter - BUT here it is inverted and decoupled from the MAF tube. The filter is now mated to the front of the carbon housing and by inverting it we are capturing maximum surface area for incoming airflow. Now, the carbon housing is not merely a heat shield - it shapes the flow smoothly down to the MAF tube over the entire distance of the housing. This means that we keep laminar conditions through the path into the MAF tube which is a lot more efficient. On the road - this translates not only to more power but smoother delivery and a sharper throttle response.

That's the main difference between the Eventuri and other systems. Plus for the Z4 kit - we have also used an additional heat shield to stop hot air from the radiator from entering the intake as well as a cold air scoop to direct cold air directly into the filter which actually keeps IAT's lower than the sealed stock airbox.

Hope that helps clarify things. :)
 
This is a question we have been asked a few times now and here is the difference:

The Gruppe M system is the same type of intake design as found in most aftermarket intakes. By that I mean they use a cone filter mated to the MAF tube and the carbon fibre is just a heat shield surrounding the cone. In this configuration - the airflow has to negotiate a path from the large diameter at the base of the filter through to the smaller diameter of the MAF tube in a relatively short distance. This is not great for aerodynamic efficiency as you will get dead spots and some turbulent effects.

The Eventuri is a new type of intake design which is patent pending and this is why: We use a cone filter - BUT here it is inverted and decoupled from the MAF tube. The filter is now mated to the front of the carbon housing and by inverting it we are capturing maximum surface area for incoming airflow. Now, the carbon housing is not merely a heat shield - it shapes the flow smoothly down to the MAF tube over the entire distance of the housing. This means that we keep laminar conditions through the path into the MAF tube which is a lot more efficient. On the road - this translates not only to more power but smoother delivery and a sharper throttle response.

That's the main difference between the Eventuri and other systems. Plus for the Z4 kit - we have also used an additional heat shield to stop hot air from the radiator from entering the intake as well as a cold air scoop to direct cold air directly into the filter which actually keeps IAT's lower than the sealed stock airbox.

Hope that helps clarify things. :)
 
For all those interested in reading a review on this product, I've now published my thoughts on Bilal's system and you can view it here;
https://www.facebook.com/ninasmrated

:driving:
-N.
 
JAD said:
This is a question we have been asked a few times now and here is the difference:

The Gruppe M system is the same type of intake design as found in most aftermarket intakes. By that I mean they use a cone filter mated to the MAF tube and the carbon fibre is just a heat shield surrounding the cone. In this configuration - the airflow has to negotiate a path from the large diameter at the base of the filter through to the smaller diameter of the MAF tube in a relatively short distance. This is not great for aerodynamic efficiency as you will get dead spots and some turbulent effects.

The Eventuri is a new type of intake design which is patent pending and this is why: We use a cone filter - BUT here it is inverted and decoupled from the MAF tube. The filter is now mated to the front of the carbon housing and by inverting it we are capturing maximum surface area for incoming airflow. Now, the carbon housing is not merely a heat shield - it shapes the flow smoothly down to the MAF tube over the entire distance of the housing. This means that we keep laminar conditions through the path into the MAF tube which is a lot more efficient. On the road - this translates not only to more power but smoother delivery and a sharper throttle response.

That's the main difference between the Eventuri and other systems. Plus for the Z4 kit - we have also used an additional heat shield to stop hot air from the radiator from entering the intake as well as a cold air scoop to direct cold air directly into the filter which actually keeps IAT's lower than the sealed stock airbox.

Hope that helps clarify things. :)

All marketing spiel. Only was yo find out which is better is to use the same car and data log stock, GruppeM and Venturi. Other than that I treat all with a pinch of salt.

For me it's all about the noise. :D
 
srhutch said:
JAD said:
This is a question we have been asked a few times now and here is the difference:

The Gruppe M system is the same type of intake design as found in most aftermarket intakes. By that I mean they use a cone filter mated to the MAF tube and the carbon fibre is just a heat shield surrounding the cone. In this configuration - the airflow has to negotiate a path from the large diameter at the base of the filter through to the smaller diameter of the MAF tube in a relatively short distance. This is not great for aerodynamic efficiency as you will get dead spots and some turbulent effects.

The Eventuri is a new type of intake design which is patent pending and this is why: We use a cone filter - BUT here it is inverted and decoupled from the MAF tube. The filter is now mated to the front of the carbon housing and by inverting it we are capturing maximum surface area for incoming airflow. Now, the carbon housing is not merely a heat shield - it shapes the flow smoothly down to the MAF tube over the entire distance of the housing. This means that we keep laminar conditions through the path into the MAF tube which is a lot more efficient. On the road - this translates not only to more power but smoother delivery and a sharper throttle response.

That's the main difference between the Eventuri and other systems. Plus for the Z4 kit - we have also used an additional heat shield to stop hot air from the radiator from entering the intake as well as a cold air scoop to direct cold air directly into the filter which actually keeps IAT's lower than the sealed stock airbox.

Hope that helps clarify things. :)

All marketing spiel.

Or, all scientific rationale from an Aeronautical Engineer who has developed the intake. I wonder whether we have any independent engineers here, with a specific knowledge of fluid dynamics who could confirm or deny Bilal's explanation?

The noise is the major benefit of these intakes, but I also like that the Eventuri solution has had some actual thought go into its design :wink: :poke:
 
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