Calling Scottish Dwellers...

Scotland are basically my girlfriends cat, spends ages whining and meowing that she wants to go outside, but then you go and open the door for her and she just comes straight back into the lounge.
 
As pointed out and the vote shows Scotland as a whole did not want this. The majority didn't want a vote and were quite happy with things as they were. So less than half of Scotland are like your girlfriends cat.

If we had a coalition Scottish Government and not a majority rule by the SNP it would never have got this far.
 
Angie4m said:
If we had a coalition Scottish Government and not a majority rule by the SNP it would never have got this far.
I wonder if support for the SNP will ebb now that it's no longer able to bang the independence drum with the promise of a referendum...
 
Angie4m said:
As pointed out and the vote shows Scotland as a whole did not want this. The majority didn't want a vote and were quite happy with things as they were. So less than half of Scotland are like your girlfriends cat.

If we had a coalition Scottish Government and not a majority rule by the SNP it would never have got this far.

Regardless of whether it would have got this far, that 45% of Scots want independence speaks volumes, it's still a substantial proportion, even if not a majority.
 
StevenH72 said:
Regardless of whether it would have got this far, that 45% of Scots want independence speaks volumes, it's still a substantial proportion, even if not a majority.

Only because the majority of them have no idea of the economics of the decision and are just swayed by a "Braveheart" campaign. If you rule out the non-informed I'm pretty sure the percentage would be a LOT lower.
 
PerryGunn said:
Angie4m said:
If we had a coalition Scottish Government and not a majority rule by the SNP it would never have got this far.
I wonder if support for the SNP will ebb now that it's no longer able to bang the independence drum with the promise of a referendum...

I do think that it will have an impact. People voted for the SNP because of their policies on the things that mattered, the thing that mattered most to the SNP but not to the electorit and was lost in the mix was a referendum on Independance.

I hold my hands up that I voted for the SNP in the Scottish Parliment election and completely disregarded that fact of a referendum but given past performance we hadn't had a majority until then so took it for granted that they'd have to get backing from elsewhere but that never happened. My views on the SNP changed at the last election when they offered to support labour to get into power in Westminster and then I thought I don't want that. This has been the icing on the cake for me. Tory all the way now, suppose its a wasted vote in Scotland but at least I vote!
 
sp3ctre said:
StevenH72 said:
Regardless of whether it would have got this far, that 45% of Scots want independence speaks volumes, it's still a substantial proportion, even if not a majority.

Only because the majority of them have no idea of the economics of the decision and are just swayed by a "Braveheart" campaign. If you rule out the non-informed I'm pretty sure the percentage would be a LOT lower.

Exactly. The missing million as they were referred to, mostly poor and unemployed people who had never voted were signed up and promised that as a 'rich' country the wealth would be spread by the yes campaign to get them to vote. Can only assume people thought an independent Scotland would look like Dubai or just a big version of Aberdeen living off oil

Better benefits was what they hoped for as clearly they are hard done to living off the state. There are genuine people out there that need benefits due to circumstances out with their control but there are a hell of a lot, not just in Scotland but in the rest of the UK that think they deserve more for sitting on their backsides and plopping out kids right, left and centre.
 
Now ed milliband says he's pleased Scotland's staying with the union!
Probably cos he needs the Scottish labour MPs to stand any more than a snowballs chance in hell to get to number 10!
 
StevenH72 said:
Angie4m said:
As pointed out and the vote shows Scotland as a whole did not want this. The majority didn't want a vote and were quite happy with things as they were. So less than half of Scotland are like your girlfriends cat.

If we had a coalition Scottish Government and not a majority rule by the SNP it would never have got this far.

Regardless of whether it would have got this far, that 45% of Scots want independence speaks volumes, it's still a substantial proportion, even if not a majority.
It's not 45%.

1.5 Million of 4.85 million eligible to vote is nearer 30%.

The folk who couldn't be arsed turning up were clearly not Yes voters.

1 in 3 is still quite a number mind :)
 
Very pleased to see that the majority in the end voted with their head not their brave heart and common sense won in the end.

Maybe all parts of the UK will benefit from this long term, in particular interest for me would be greater self control for midland and Northern English cities who are just as far apart from Westminster as Wales Scotland and Northern Ireland.
 
Jasey said:
StevenH72 said:
Angie4m said:
As pointed out and the vote shows Scotland as a whole did not want this. The majority didn't want a vote and were quite happy with things as they were. So less than half of Scotland are like your girlfriends cat.

If we had a coalition Scottish Government and not a majority rule by the SNP it would never have got this far.

Regardless of whether it would have got this far, that 45% of Scots want independence speaks volumes, it's still a substantial proportion, even if not a majority.
It's not 45%.

1.5 Million of 4.85 million eligible to vote is nearer 30%.

The folk who couldn't be arsed turning up were clearly not Yes voters.

1 in 3 is still quite a number mind :)

Mikes mate made the 70 mile round trip to vote at lunchtime as they were finished after midnight, he went mental at his bird who is Scottish because she said she wasn't bothered! Not bothered that her other half in the event of yes would have to move jobs and if she wanted to stay with him so would she! Idiot really. I have no time for people with that attitude.
 
Fair enough, regardless of whether they were ill informed or not, there are always those that don't understand economic implications when voting (I'd even bet the majority of voters in the general election don't really know what they are voting for). Equally, there'll have been people who voted "No" for the wrong reasons too.
 
I still think we all have to get a grip on the size of the UK.

We are a tiny little island and not the size of one of the USA States.
I say one government is plenty. There are enough greedy sponging leeches (all sides included in this)in Westminster without another several rafts of them !

How many levels of bourocracy do we need or can afford?
 
sp3ctre said:
StevenH72 said:
Regardless of whether it would have got this far, that 45% of Scots want independence speaks volumes, it's still a substantial proportion, even if not a majority.
Only because the majority of them have no idea of the economics of the decision and are just swayed by a "Braveheart" campaign. If you rule out the non-informed I'm pretty sure the percentage would be a LOT lower.
And the unfortunate thing is that it doesn't matter one jot if they're incredibly well informed, have tried to read every bit of subject matter to gain a fuller understanding of all the issues and spent weeks weighing up the pros and cons of independence or they're voting 'cos their mate said Alex was down the boozer and would buy 'em a wee dram after...... every vote carries the same weight....

Isn't democracy wonderful...
 
ric19 said:
Are you looking for a devolved Dronfield :-)

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Then it's all down to parish councilors!
I've seen them in action and it is like the viacar of dibly!
 
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