Barack Obama: President of the USA
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Caddyshk said:StrikesRama said:
Actually, I was thinking more specifically about doctors that actually make house calls (reducing waiting periods in emergency rooms on off-hours), doctors included in emergency response (ambulance) crews, and triage at the dispatch stage (using doctors again) so when a crew is sent out they know if a doctor is required with the crew.
The last 2 allow the patient to be taken to the facility that is most appropriate for the patient and their ailment, rather than the one that is closest since the doctor can administer many medications that ambulance and EMT's in North America can't to more quickly stabilize the patient and provide faster and more effective treatment. The system is like taking a trauma unit with them to the patient's location.
Cheers, Al
20ducks said:
Of what interest is that to someone who doesn't care about my opinions?
No, I am not a member of the medical profession, although I have used their services extensively over the last 25 years. Personally I find medicine appealing on a technical and policy level, but I'm not really interested in dealing with sick people, so that and passing Organic Chemistry (looked at my wife's homework and said "no thanks!") pretty much ruled out a career in medicine. :wink:
BTW she's not in medicine either - she is a Technical Regulatory Scientist.
Cheers, Al
Rama said:20ducks said:
Of what interest is that to someone who doesn't care about my opinions?
No, I am not a member of the medical profession, although I have used their services extensively over the last 25 years. Personally I find medicine appealing on a technical and policy level, but I'm not really interested in dealing with sick people, so that and passing Organic Chemistry (looked at my wife's homework and said "no thanks!") pretty much ruled out a career in medicine. :wink:
BTW she's not in medicine either - she is a Technical Regulatory Scientist.
Cheers, Al
You are right....I don't give a shite.
20ducks said:Rama said:20ducks said:
Of what interest is that to someone who doesn't care about my opinions?
No, I am not a member of the medical profession, although I have used their services extensively over the last 25 years. Personally I find medicine appealing on a technical and policy level, but I'm not really interested in dealing with sick people, so that and passing Organic Chemistry (looked at my wife's homework and said "no thanks!") pretty much ruled out a career in medicine. :wink:
BTW she's not in medicine either - she is a Technical Regulatory Scientist.
Cheers, Al
You are right....I don't give a shite.
Thank the FSM....I was beginning to think you were a stalker.
Holy crap batman now I understand why the founding fathers did not allow direct voting of the citizenry. Young Americans and apparently some Canadians will buy any propaganda on TV. Go back to playing with your X-Box. 600 million for advertising will sell anything. God Help US. 
The Universal Health Care that Canada currently has was an excellent system when introduced in the sense that a large number of people were paying each a small amount of money to provide universal access to health care for a small number of persons who needed it. 
With the advances of medicine that keeps us alive but not necessarily healthy and with an aging population the number of people requiring health care services is ever increasing and its total cost ballooning. 
The pool of workers actually paying through their taxes for this health care system is ever decreasing causing each taxpayer to pay ever more taxes for the system.
I do believe in universal health care but in its current form it is not viable anymore. That's why people who can afford to pay for health care wants in Canada a private system that is similar to what we find in the U.S. of A.
I personally hope that the U.S. of A will find a way to provide an universal halthe care system to its population but if it uses our current system it will fail miserably.
Karl Marx wanted to redistribute the wealth among everybody. We want to take a bit of our money and help the poor and sick to recover and become active member of our society. Is that too much to ask? To all those who don't buy into this concept I suggest that you listen to the lyrics of Bob Dylan's song "Like a Rolling Stone" you would be surprised to see how it applies to today's society.
Am I an "agent provocateur"?
Cheers.
With the advances of medicine that keeps us alive but not necessarily healthy and with an aging population the number of people requiring health care services is ever increasing and its total cost ballooning. The pool of workers actually paying through their taxes for this health care system is ever decreasing causing each taxpayer to pay ever more taxes for the system.I do believe in universal health care but in its current form it is not viable anymore. That's why people who can afford to pay for health care wants in Canada a private system that is similar to what we find in the U.S. of A.
I personally hope that the U.S. of A will find a way to provide an universal halthe care system to its population but if it uses our current system it will fail miserably.
Karl Marx wanted to redistribute the wealth among everybody. We want to take a bit of our money and help the poor and sick to recover and become active member of our society. Is that too much to ask? To all those who don't buy into this concept I suggest that you listen to the lyrics of Bob Dylan's song "Like a Rolling Stone" you would be surprised to see how it applies to today's society.
Am I an "agent provocateur"?
Cheers.
What incentive is there if you no longer are personally accountable? What incentive is there when a "right" becomes a entitlement? One very important principle Americans strive for is to be rewarded for their efforts. This comes wrapped in different packages. Redistributing the wealth is a burden on those who have worked for it. Why would we want a government to penalize success with a heavier tax burden. Socialism treats people as if we are all the same. We aren't.
Bob Dylan was a great poet...back when social change was discussed in every corner of society: the 60's. Society found out that on paper it looked good but in reality it sucked. Google the success rate of the so-called communes that sprouted up during that era. How many flourish today.
The USA is the most generous country in the world. However to take money out of our pocket and give to some slob that just feels he/she is entitled to it will not work.
We had a charismatic President=Elect that gave a load of promises to get the votes. That's what politics is all about. I just don't want to pay more than what is considered to be fair. Besides that we have over 300 million people (of which 265 million are citizens). That is a far cry from the 33 million you have there in Canada.
The comparisons made just don't add up.
Yes, I lived under the UK National Health System. My ex was/is a Midwife in the UK. My recent medical situation (verified by a certain person in the UK) would have me on a list, for the procedure I had done. I would need to wait another 3-5 months before I could have the operation. That is unacceptable. I have health insurance for my family just like I have car insurance for my vehicles. Would you want to pay for or subsidize a strangers car insurance? What if he drank a lot? Smoked cigarettes? Addicted to crystal meth? Why would I want to pay for any of that? Would you?
Bob Dylan was a great poet...back when social change was discussed in every corner of society: the 60's. Society found out that on paper it looked good but in reality it sucked. Google the success rate of the so-called communes that sprouted up during that era. How many flourish today.
The USA is the most generous country in the world. However to take money out of our pocket and give to some slob that just feels he/she is entitled to it will not work.
We had a charismatic President=Elect that gave a load of promises to get the votes. That's what politics is all about. I just don't want to pay more than what is considered to be fair. Besides that we have over 300 million people (of which 265 million are citizens). That is a far cry from the 33 million you have there in Canada.
The comparisons made just don't add up.
Yes, I lived under the UK National Health System. My ex was/is a Midwife in the UK. My recent medical situation (verified by a certain person in the UK) would have me on a list, for the procedure I had done. I would need to wait another 3-5 months before I could have the operation. That is unacceptable. I have health insurance for my family just like I have car insurance for my vehicles. Would you want to pay for or subsidize a strangers car insurance? What if he drank a lot? Smoked cigarettes? Addicted to crystal meth? Why would I want to pay for any of that? Would you?
We already have this. I pay a helluva a lot more taxes than someone who makes $30,000 per year. More than they even make. What was proposed is really intended to stabilize the middle class, which is essential to grow our economy. Basic economics.20ducks said:
Great example. We already do subsidize "strangers" car and health insurance. Interesting you would use this scenario as an example so soon after your recent procedure. Especially after admitting that you smoked for many years. Fact is, much of the cost for your care (which I'm very glad you received) was paid by other Americans contributions to insurance. Just as many people never file car insurance claims, their premiums pay for other people's damages. I haven't been hospitalized since I was a child,(in Canada by the way) so where do my health insurance premiums go?20ducks said:
They didn't let women vote either and blacks weren't even considered human. The good ole days!WaZZZZman said:Holy crap batman now I understand why the founding fathers did not allow direct voting of the citizenry. Young Americans and apparently some Canadians will buy any propaganda on TV. Go back to playing with your X-Box. 600 million for advertising will sell anything. God Help US.
Oh I forgot, your family has been here "since the beginning" so you are an authority. Iroquois, Cree, Seminole?WaZZZZman said:Holy crap batman now I understand why the founding fathers did not allow direct voting of the citizenry. Young Americans and apparently some Canadians will buy any propaganda on TV. Go back to playing with your X-Box. 600 million for advertising will sell anything. God Help US. :headbang
They didn't let women vote either and blacks weren't even considered human. The good ole days!
No !! Sorry have native American ancestors too, and yes I am an authority on history. Anyone can be smart; you have to be mature to be wise.