Z4MC Hairdressers car!!!

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Mike Rainbird said:
Let me guess, you jumped on board the band wagon without actually reading the original post that caused the original ruffling of the Z4 owners' feathers?

If you actually take the time to read this on the Evo forum (link on page 1 first post), you will see that I posted up a pretty objective report of our 'ring trip where we drove there in the Z4MC, did 22 laps in a day and then drove back. I pointed out the flaws with the standard suspension / wheels / tyre package

Mike Rainbird Evo July 2011 said:
...so we went in a relatively standard Z4M (APs and rear bush limiter kit fitted the day before). We both did a lap each at the end of the public day on Sunday - just to see how it went (as neither of us had driven one in anger before - as it was purchased only a few days before, when we realised the Escort wasn't going to be ready) and thought that we were going to die :o. It was completely unpredictable and just seemed to move around in a frightening manner. We decided to see if adjusting tyre pressures helped any and after my lap went to the garage and dropped them down from 37psi hot to 30 (Conti Sport Contacts). We then had to wait until the morning to see if that did anything.

Fortunately it did (and the relief we felt was fantastic, as we were sure the car was out to kill us previously LOL), and the car was much more settled and this meant that we could push harder and harder (and keep dropping the pressures to maintain the 30psi hot). This seemed to be the best compromise and although we weren't the fastet there, we weren't the slowest by a long shot...

...With the tyres at anything above 30psi, there was a notable drop off in feel and handling, with the car lurching unpredicatably and feeling really vague. Dropping the pressures transformed the car into something that was undriveable on the limit before (or something that you didn't WANT to drive at anywhere approaching the limit), to something that was at least predicatable and did mostly what you wanted it to do (to the adhesion limit of the tyres anyway)....

...It was once we got to grips with the tyre pressures, but nowhere near as fun as a well sorted E46 M3. Maybe the Nitrons will transform the car, but I suspect the design is flawed, so you're fighting against that....

...Sporadic rain, where we came in and wouldn't go out again until it dried, a couple of times the track was closed for accidents (around 30 mins at a time), we had to fill up five times (each time taking around 15-20 mins inc checking tyre pressures) due to the tiny 50 litre tank and the fact that they closed the track a bit earlier than normal (1620 instead of 1640, due to the barrier damage needing to be repaired before the public evening, meant that we did 2 laps less than intended). Still I thought 150+ miles each in a day was pretty good - normally I would only do around that on a UK track day.

I was absolutely wiped out from the high level of concentration that these laps required - we weren't cruising around - doing consistant sub 9 minute laps (including 15s added time due to the circuit from Schikane to T13 being coned off single lane with a 30kmh speed limit as they were building seats on the track for a forth-coming event)...

...It's a nice place to be, albeit the seats lacking as much support as you would like. Quite fast too - we were hitting an indicated 160mph going past the pits, and then slowing to 140mph going under the bridge, which we thought was quick until one of the Stage 1 2011 GTR guys said they were seeing an indicated 190 :o....

...I personally was mortified when he told me he had bought it (especially when he told me it was "purple" with bamboo interior) - I thought we would look like a gay couple in it LOL (a bit like when you see two men in a Boxster ;)). I preferred his E46: ....

...The Z4 is a hairdresser's car, so hardly comparable with the almost homologation specials that are the Porsche GT cars (where racing definitely improves the bread) ;).
However, BMW always seem to put woefully inadequate brakes on their cars (choosing cheap mass produced sliding callipers which are fit for nothing but the skip ;))....

So you discovered that overinflated Conti M3s handle unpredictably and that small cars have small fuel tanks. Oh, and the seats aren't the best. Still can't see your review :wink:
 
Believe me you're not in the slightest bit upsetting me. I think your a w@nker and it takes more than the likes of you to ruffle my feathers.
I have read the posts, every one of them and like I said, you showed up to answer the posts ultimately to wind people up and brag about your cars.
Clearly, because you aren't a regular on this forum and haven't read anything I've written before, my sense of humour has gone over your head and you view my comments as condescending. This equates in your narrow, male mind as me needing to 'get laid' more often. Can you explain how having more sex makes a person less condescending? Looking at your profile picture on another web site I'm frankly amazed you are getting any at all and so that must explain your own condescending attitude towards some people in the earlier pages of this thread.
Or am I just being a silly girl and not understanding anything you've posted?
Funny as the women on this web site aren't at all silly usually, we have a doctor an engineer and various businesswomen. How ever we managed to get on in life is a wonder isn't it?
 
You forgot to put the posts in that many of mine were replying to, which shows a certain amount of context missed (and ignored by you lot ;)).

You also forgot about the bush limiter kit ;). If it drove like this with the limiter kit fitted, it must have horrendous bump steer issues as standard. The rear end is just not as connected as an E46 M3 (something that Chris Harris acknowledged when we were chatting with him ;)). The owner of the car did subsequently fit CSL wheels, which according to him made a significant improvement to the dynamics of the car, but it was still not quite there, so in the end he binned it off for another E92 M3.

I know they can be made to perform, but out of the crate, they're not as good as other BMWs that they share the engine with (plus they have that image ;)) :P.
 
Carol M said:
Believe me you're not in the slightest bit upsetting me. I think your a w@nker and it takes more than the likes of you to ruffle my feathers.
I have read the posts, every one of them and like I said, you showed up to answer the posts ultimately to wind people up and brag about your cars.
Clearly, because you aren't a regular on this forum and haven't read anything I've written before, my sense of humour has gone over your head and you view my comments as condescending. This equates in your narrow, male mind as me needing to 'get laid' more often. Can you explain how having more sex makes a person less condescending? Looking at your profile picture on another web site I'm frankly amazed you are getting any at all and so that must explain your own condescending attitude towards some people in the earlier pages of this thread.
Or am I just being a silly girl and not understanding anything you've posted?
Funny as the women on this web site aren't at all silly usually, we have a doctor an engineer and various businesswomen. How ever we managed to get on in life is a wonder isn't it?

You're a lost cause - there is no point in me trying to explain the use of the smilies :rofl: .

The fact that you are resorting to petty name-calling shows the complete opposite to what you're saying ;).

Did you read and digest my post, I OPENLY admitted my intentions, I make no apologies for attempting to wind-up or belittle the owners on the first three pages and also wanted to show that you can never judge an owner by the car he chooses as a track toy ;) :P.

Obviously you're not getting the banter, nor my sense of humour or you wouldn't be getting so wound up and would be realising that you're being well and truly fished ;).

As to the misogynistic impression you seem to have of me, that is because I know how much it offends you ;). However, given that you don't seem to know when someone is playing with you, then yes I am wondering how you get through any day without feeling upset and outraged by something ;).
 
Carol M said:
Likewise. You can't see when you're getting trolled back can you? :rofl:

One of us seems to be getting wound up, whilst the other is sitting here smiling in good humour :poke: :P.

Why not make it two people having a bit of a laugh (at our own expenses) 8) ?
 
Why do you think none of the regular lads have commented on what you've said? They know what I'm doing and they know I'm certainly not wound up. Ha! You'd know about it if I was mate!
(Actually I do think you're a bit of a w@nker though, and I'm getting plenty FYI!) :lol:
 
Carol M said:
Why do you think none of the regular lads have commented on what you've said? They know what I'm doing and they know I'm certainly not wound up. Ha! You'd know about it if I was mate!
(Actually I do think you're a bit of a w@nker though, and I'm getting plenty FYI!) :lol:

I don't deny it, but on this occasion, I do feel that the wankerish attitude was justified ;).

Pictures or STFU ;).
 
Carol M said:
Can you explain how having more sex makes a person less condescending? Looking at your profile picture on another web site I'm frankly amazed you are getting any at all and so that must explain your own condescending attitude towards some people in the earlier pages of this thread.

ROFL..........Nice one Carol.


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Yes, I'm entertaining myself before I leave work to pick my daughter up from Brownies :P. However, you'll be pleased to know, I'm now leaving ;).
 
Mike Rainbird said:
Yes, I'm entertaining myself before I leave work to pick my daughter up from Brownies :P. However, you'll be pleased to know, I'm now leaving ;).


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McKoval said:
I have a 3.0litre roadster - not even an M
Im not a girl, certainly not gay, and probably not a hairdresser (although I must admit that I spend most of my time at work with scissors and forceps)..

About a week ago, on a trackday, an owner of stock evo X called my Z all show no go.. than he couldnt shake me from hie tail for 5 laps.. in the depo I asked him, how would it look like if we switched cars and I would drive a 4wd and he would take my FR - would he be able to keep up - just then he understood a misconception of calling Z a hairdressers car..

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True. Such disputes are best solved on track.

While speaking of our Polish backyard, I remember a Nissan 370z convertible review in GT magazine. All the bragging ended when the Fairlady lost to a chavvy yelllow Ibiza Cupra - the Datsun's ESP (as far as I remember, even in the 'off' mode) prevented the driver from extracting the full potential of the vehicle.
 
ESCORT cossie - you can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter and make it faster, but deep down, it's still a turd!

Goodnight
 
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