Tyres - Decision made & Vreds fitted!
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I know bugger all about tyres really. I've got the original Conti's on! (and I like them <winces as fellow M owners recoil in horror> :lol: )
I'm just enjoying the debate and argument on this thread
I'm just enjoying the debate and argument on this thread
Tom has a proper car, one that needs superior rubber, I am surprised you lot can't see that.
Anyway, the OP. I chose 'other' because the absolute priority for quality open top motoring in my not so humble opinion is road noise. Without doubt, this is the truth, Goodyear Asymmetric 2s are The Best!
Anyway, the OP. I chose 'other' because the absolute priority for quality open top motoring in my not so humble opinion is road noise. Without doubt, this is the truth, Goodyear Asymmetric 2s are The Best!
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That's correct.Logan said:
Waited until the last minute to swap out my rears, as one was on the limit and the other had been replaced out of sequence due to a puncture and was only only half-worn. Kept hoping the delay would mean the correct size would come up but it didn't.
The only issue I've had with the wider PSS on the rear - due to the motorsport derived structure of the carcass (very straight sidewall, square shoulder and tread to the very edge) - means it's effectively wider than it's competition in the same size. Which probably doesn't do it any harm in the dry grip stakes.
I'm on standard suspension/geometry, and 25 laps at the 'Ring plus 5000 miles has not seemed to have had a huge effect on the tread depth. Not had any problem with rubbing so far, but I guess that will depend on suspension/geometry/load.
First 5 minutes in the damp/cold you have to take care, but after that you can drive the quite hard without worrying. Don't seem to see the DSC light flickering as much either - but that may be due to me being a driving god
Can't compare them to anything other than the OEM SportContact M3 on the Z4MC (although I've gone through plenty of different tyres on my M5s to find the best for me - which was the Bridgestone SO2 or latterly the Michelin PS2), and was planning on putting PS2s on, but these were the same price, and all the reviews said they were almost as good as Cups. They are in a different league to the OEM Conti's.
Ignorance is blissoriginal guvnor said:
If you never try a better tyre, then you'll never know how bad the OEM tyres are. I didn't think the OEM tyres were that bad (went off very quickly at the 'Ring, but I wasn't driving 10/10ths anyway) until I put the PSS on! They've given me so (too) much confidence that it feels like a different car. Hot/cold/dry/wet/damp/road/track performance are all exponentially better than the OEM tyre - for about 25% more than the OEM tyre.
I'd be even happier if they'd produce the PSS in 255/40r18 though!
I don't believe it's the car that needs them either.sp3ctre said:
I believe it's the way the owner uses the car that prescribes the type of tyre needed.
I could get away with £40/corner Linglongs if I was only ever driving the car 5 miles a week to the shops - and have had 'budget' tyres on my M5 as a tyre tester for Pistonheads/Blackcirles* - but for MY style of driving I want/need something I can rely on. I can take other people's views on board, but ultimately it's down to me to decide whether I want to risk £200/£400/£600/£1000 on a set of tyres that I might 'dump' after a month (e.g. Yokohama AVS Sports :x ), so I tend not to go for something cheaper.
* they worked well whilst the suspension was at huge camber settings, but became very slippy once back to factory settings and new suspension.
Say what you like, but the falkens arnt premium tyres.
Like mmm-five says depends how you want to drive it. If you feel putting a sub standard tyre on a performance car is acceptable then feel free. Just to save a couple of hundred £.
At the end of the day tyres are the most important thing, and the only thing keeping you to the road. I didnt mean to sound snobby but you need something you can rely on and from my experience with the 452 even with a car with 173hp I felt they were no where near as good as the PS and putting tyres worth less than £500 on an M you must be off your head! No argument needed. :thumbsdown:
If non premium tyres were ok for cars with such caliber all Ms would come with falkens im sure. Go figure.
Like mmm-five says depends how you want to drive it. If you feel putting a sub standard tyre on a performance car is acceptable then feel free. Just to save a couple of hundred £.
At the end of the day tyres are the most important thing, and the only thing keeping you to the road. I didnt mean to sound snobby but you need something you can rely on and from my experience with the 452 even with a car with 173hp I felt they were no where near as good as the PS and putting tyres worth less than £500 on an M you must be off your head! No argument needed. :thumbsdown:
If non premium tyres were ok for cars with such caliber all Ms would come with falkens im sure. Go figure.
sp3ctre said:
I imagine they don't pay a lot for the tyres and like any supplier to an OEM the margins will be really tight, for companies like Continental, Bridgestone, Goodyear and Michelin they can afford to discount heavily to the OEM's because they now that they can recover their profits when Joe Blogs replaces the tyres with what's already on there. For the smaller companies, their in the cut price trade which is very competitive and so cannot afford to discount so heavily to the OEM.
Do not believe for one minute that BMW use Bridgestone because they are the best tyre, its all about the money.
When buying new tyres, I always use http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/ they are all based on opinions and everyone has one. As a matter of interest the Falken 452's are rated 75% by 157 reviewers and PS2 @ 88% by 105 reviewers and the Goodyear F1A v2 @ 95% by 49 reviewers.....I have these
sars said:When buying new tyres, I always use http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/ they are all based on opinions and everyone has one. As a matter of interest the Falken 452's are rated 75% by 157 reviewers and PS2 @ 88% by 105 reviewers and the Goodyear F1A v2 @ 95% by 49 reviewers.....I have these
Not seen that site before, although I have used the Goodyear F1A's and was quite impressed with them
sp3ctre said:sars said:When buying new tyres, I always use http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/ they are all based on opinions and everyone has one. As a matter of interest the Falken 452's are rated 75% by 157 reviewers and PS2 @ 88% by 105 reviewers and the Goodyear F1A v2 @ 95% by 49 reviewers.....I have these
Not seen that site before, although I have used the Goodyear F1A's and was quite impressed with them
On the site there is a tyre review from Evo written in 2012, interestingly they put the midrange brand of Hankook, with their ventus S1 evo, in second place behind the Continental Sport Contact 3 and even though the F1A2 scored the most points they were in 3rd.....go figure.