This is why not cognac thanks...

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I guess some of you know I rejected a cognac interior car this year after a mix up with spec lockdown, or lack of it, dates. The very first G29 I saw was at a launch ‘do’ in spring 2019 with cognac, and I thought it was pretty smart tbh, a few months later I saw a black G29 with Magna red interior and as much as black and red is my fav combo the red was just too bright, even orange and being honest I couldn’t see how I could live with it if I bought a Zed. Forward to a few months ago in the dealers and looking at swatches I thought these colours have changed since launch, they’re toned down, indeed looking at the sales guys Magna red in his company car the difference in tone was striking, even he agreed they looked different and had had the same conversation with colleagues a few weeks earlier. Anyhoo the reason for this ramble is I’ve just stumbled on a photo of the ‘new’ Cognac which I’ve not seen before in pics and just shows the difference in the two tones and to me anyway confirms what I said about it being washed out now, these two pics are very accurate in tone from what I’ve experienced hence this post, I’d be very interested if anyone that thinks the ‘Washed out’ Cognac looks better than the ‘Original’. There could be a little filter going on but truly these pics represent the difference to what I’ve experienced very very closely. The first pic is identical to the car I rejected, it was at the dealers when I went to thrash out a deal. :thumbsup:
 

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like it in the top pic..not as keen on it in the bottom one looks a bit too orange in tone although probably more true cognac all this stuff is very personal though innit, I think the top pic looks fantastic and would plump for that over red
 
Smartbear said:
Top pic looks very beige to me, i prefer the lower pic with the richer colours :thumbsup:
Rob

Isnt the lower pic just like your own trim in the E89 Rob :wink: :oops: looks class anyway , the top pic looking more like the early E85 "beige" :cry:
 
mr.tourette said:
like it in the top pic..not keen on it in the bottom one looks a bit too orange in tone although probably more true cognac all this stuff is very personal though innit, I think the top pic looks fantastic and would plump for that over red

Looks so washed out in the flesh Steve, but hey if you prefer that to the deeper colour then cool. :thumbsup:
 
mr wilks said:
Smartbear said:
Top pic looks very beige to me, i prefer the lower pic with the richer colours :thumbsup:
Rob

Isnt the lower pic just like your own trim in the E89 Rob :wink: :oops: looks class anyway , the top pic looking more like the early E85 "beige" :cry:

It does indeed, Ive had the same interior as the Bear and the bottom pic is very close to the E89 Walnut.
 
john-e89 said:
mr.tourette said:
like it in the top pic..not keen on it in the bottom one looks a bit too orange in tone although probably more true cognac all this stuff is very personal though innit, I think the top pic looks fantastic and would plump for that over red


Looks so washed out in the flesh Steve, but hey if you prefer that to the deeper colour then cool. :thumbsup:

I guess I do like a light interior, its why i sought out an e89 with ivory white..I would say though if I wanted cognac and got the top pic I wouldn't be impressed as it is not cognac at all really, as Andy points out it is definitely more beige but that said I think it looks very nice and is a great contrast to the blacks in the cabin..not sure I'd compare it to the early e85 beiges though as some of those did look a bit putrid :D
 
john-e89 said:
mr wilks said:
Smartbear said:
Top pic looks very beige to me, i prefer the lower pic with the richer colours :thumbsup:
Rob

Isnt the lower pic just like your own trim in the E89 Rob :wink: :oops: looks class anyway , the top pic looking more like the early E85 "beige" :cry:

It does indeed, Ive had the same interior as the Bear and the bottom pic is very close to the E89 Walnut.

Yes, it’s a subconscious thing i suspect-we revert to what we already like :?
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Our previous z3 also had a similar individual interior colour
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Rob
 
I'm not keen on the top picture, the bottom one is very nice though (so you saying they don't actually do the bottom one) ?
 
As far as colours go I never use pictures as a reference as they're always off.
Regarding the 2 pics: I can immediately see that the white balance and contrast is not the same unless their black colours have also changed :lol:
(there's also an incredible amount of compression so the pictures themselves are of increcibly low quality to begin with)
So getting conclusive facts out of these pictures is imho a bit useless.
Get the 2 cars together in 1 picture.
 
GuidoK said:
As far as colours go I never use pictures as a reference as they're always off.
Regarding the 2 pics: I can immediately see that the white balance and contrast is not the same unless their black colours have also changed :lol:
(there's also an incredible amount of compression so the pictures themselves are of increcibly low quality to begin with)
So getting conclusive facts out of these pictures is imho a bit useless.
Get the 2 cars together in 1 picture.

:roll:

If you read my post I’ve seen both in the flesh and the pics are the best representation of each that I’ve found as stated.
 
Jollyjoiner said:
I'm not keen on the top picture, the bottom one is very nice though (so you saying they don't actually do the bottom one) ?

Not anymore Nige no, if the 2020 car I saw that I initially specced is anything to go by.... :wink:
 
John, I was looking at an M40i recently and if the colour in picture 1 was a true representation I’d maybe have given it a bit more thought, picture 2 is a no from me :thumbsup:

This is the picture of the interior I’m talking about and it doesn’t look as bright here as it did on the original picture, it looks very similar to your picture 2
 

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john-e89 said:
If you read my post I’ve seen both in the flesh and the pics are the best representation of each that I’ve found as stated.
Yes I've read it but we have to believe your blue eyes on it.
My point is that you show pictures that coincide with your memory. But the pictures you show, are different in real life.
So if the pictures are different to begin with, what is the reality? Is your memory a true representation of reality?
For us that's very difficult to tell :lol:

If the colour has changed, then partnumbers of interior parts have changed too.
Have you looked up those? That would be a very sure way to see if your story is plausable or not (is your mind playing tricks on you or is your memory right? :wink: )
colourchange without part# change would give huge chaos. Think insurance companies having to change complete interiors when 1 small parts gets damaged etc. So that never happens.
Also keeping track of exact partnumbers is extremely important for a carmaker in therms of liability. If a certain partnumber has a critical fault it's way cheaper to just recall that batch that has that partnumber instead of all cars of that type ever made so carmakers are very meticulous about that.
And partnumbers change all the time; slight technical changes, or OEM changes etc etc.
Normally a superseeding partnumber should be the same in use/appearane but little changes do happen. And I can imagine a slight difference in colourtone with a different partnumber is possible. I've seen superceeding parts change in fit&finish myself when replacing parts (having both of them in my hands side by side)

But if one's buying used it doesn't matter as you're getting to see the actual product in adavance so one can decide then and there.
 
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