mgrlane said:Let me have one last role of the dice to explain my circumstances.
Flyingfifer said:As for Chris Whitty, the sky is blue and fire is hot
Flyingfifer said:It really has gotten to the stage where we have explained over and over and over to people who are either simply not reading what is actually being said, are incapable of understanding it or are being intellectually dishonest.
Flyingfifer said:Im still waiting to find out how long the vaccine actually lasts, it could be that by Summer the people who were vaccinated first are at risk again
mgrlane said:Come on Timothy you said a little more than that :wink:
Had I taken the route of "all vaccinations are bad" or "our government are out to get us" I could understand why people were calling me stupid, sad etc. Let me have one last role of the dice to explain my circumstances.
Might I be as bold as to suggest that I may be more informed perhaps than you of the risks involved with both taking and declining the opportunity. Heaven knows I have spent enough hours researching. If you want to interpret that as shunning or delaying the vaccine through fear and misinformation- then fair play I guess.
You said- "Any side affects of having the vaccine appear to far outweigh the plusses of minimising the symptoms and protecting yourself so it has to be a win"
I would love you to have this conversation with some of the victims of Pandemrix. Now it was reasonable to assume that there were no bad intentions when this was signed off but there were side effects later on discovered from this.
If I had of had the choice of taking the Hib/MenC vaccine now (let's pretend that I wouldn't have had it as a kid) then I would have no problems taking it now (it's backed with years of "case studies"). I would also take any the vaccines prescribed that have years of data (or test subjects) behind it.
With the risks of covid vs the unknown risks of the vaccination (this is fact- there is no mumbo jumbo here) we don't know any medium or long term effects of it. Then I don't think I am silly, stupid, an idiot, an antivaxer to not decided if it's right for me.
All I can really do is dip my hat to you and thank you for being a live participant in this experiment and I am happy to wait and see what effects (or not) it has on you before I make my decision to either participate or not.
mgrlane said:Flyingfifer said:As for Chris Whitty, the sky is blue and fire is hot
I nearly replied with "at the end of the day it gets dark".
Flyingfifer said:It really has gotten to the stage where we have explained over and over and over to people who are either simply not reading what is actually being said, are incapable of understanding it or are being intellectually dishonest.
It has been exhausted tbf. I need to tap out and I don't know why I can't.
Flyingfifer said:Im still waiting to find out how long the vaccine actually lasts, it could be that by Summer the people who were vaccinated first are at risk again
It's going to be at least a yearly thing for the next 3-4 years I think (no evidence to back it up). Blame it on the anti-vaxers and pop out a load of fear on a new "variant" to keep fear high and the shareholders happy.

z4pilot said:I hope once covid restrictions allow, you two have got a room booked to continue your self perpetuating bro-mance![]()

Perhaps you could include the question of how many may have changed their mindronk said:This post was a straw poll of who was likely to have a vaccination - and to this point only 9% say definitely NO -
I just wondered how many of the 9% and a count of 16 who have said NO are at home and furloughed ?
ronk said:I would like to see that as well - the post was made prior to roll out of the vaccine and I suspect there will be a few Undecided and Maybe voters who are now more and better informed will have changes
The NO voters I suspect will have dug their heals in.

Flyingfifer said:Now im going elsewhere to pop my 1000th post cos im not doing it here!
North Yorkshire/Durham border? Z went last week fuel is expensive these days at 16mpgFlyingfifer said:mgrlane... Meet you at the border mate
Argyll Andy said:Dunno why when about 900 of them are on this thread already

Sheep!Stevo1987 said:I just booked my jab and I was one of the "hell no" people.
I had no choice. Her indooor's "persuaded" me.enuff_zed said:Sheep!Stevo1987 said:I just booked my jab and I was one of the "hell no" people.![]()
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So you traded a jab for a right hook? :wink:Stevo1987 said:I had no choice. Her indooor's "persuaded" me.enuff_zed said:Sheep!Stevo1987 said:I just booked my jab and I was one of the "hell no" people.![]()
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Something like that. It was more stick than carrot.enuff_zed said:So you traded a jab for a right hook? :wink:Stevo1987 said:I had no choice. Her indooor's "persuaded" me.enuff_zed said:Sheep!![]()
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Ah Connaught Hall? 5 minute walk from my house.Stevo1987 said:Something like that. It was more stick than carrot.enuff_zed said:So you traded a jab for a right hook? :wink:Stevo1987 said:I had no choice. Her indooor's "persuaded" me.I get a nice trip to Attleborough. I hope the weather is ok.......Zeddddd......