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Argyll Andy said:1. They can’t tell me and have had no official guidance (I’ve already asked) I did this on the back of information floating around of as little as 90 days protection
2. 2nd jab 12 weeks, appointment already made at the same time as this one. Only proviso is might be slightly earlier if surplus doses at the end of a day/week. 2nd jab gives another 20ish% protection
3. Haven’t asked any of this but told I’ll get any relevant information at my appointment. If they don’t cover this, which I’d think they should, I’ll ask but IMO I’d think if I was showing symptoms I’d be following the same rules as everyone else so not to spread it.
This is also about me protecting those around me as it is me
ronk said:
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I suspect the questions cant be answered but you never know
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Well it's certainly good news if the Oxford vaccine does indeed reduce transmission by up to 67%.
But am I the only one who thinks they should have kept that quiet a bit longer?
Now everyone who's had that vaccine will be relaxing and parading round the streets.
I may be alone in this, but I think the recent noticeable change by the government and the BBC to more scaremongering has been wholly intentional, to try to get more people to respect the rules.
Will this latest announcement not negate this?
Discuss..................
But am I the only one who thinks they should have kept that quiet a bit longer?
Now everyone who's had that vaccine will be relaxing and parading round the streets.
I may be alone in this, but I think the recent noticeable change by the government and the BBC to more scaremongering has been wholly intentional, to try to get more people to respect the rules.
Will this latest announcement not negate this?
Discuss..................
Lockdown.
People shouldnt be moving around.
Deaths are reportedly over 100,000.
Meanwhile Boris travels hundreds of miles into a different country, visits vaccine centres and doesnt wear a mask while doing it.
When members of the public see things like this happening they dont take it seriously and do what they want.
People shouldnt be moving around.
Deaths are reportedly over 100,000.
Meanwhile Boris travels hundreds of miles into a different country, visits vaccine centres and doesnt wear a mask while doing it.
When members of the public see things like this happening they dont take it seriously and do what they want.
mgrlane said:
I’m glad to hear you mother is fine I hope she remains so.
The part about having reactions such as she experienced being a good sign...Well I guess that could be true, I’m not a virologist but it sure sounds like bull feces to my ears. I can just visualize two guys talking prior to one of them releasing that “news” to the press. The one guy turns to the other and says, “watch this, there’ll believe anything.”
What’s next, it’s better to die from taking the vaccine than to die from Covid, it’s far less painful, no really!
Sorry, but I take everything that the mainstream media puts out as propaganda, truth mixed with lies and who knows which is which.
enuff_zed said:
If I was told to take a vaccine for the benefit of society, then took the vaccine only to be told it really wont help society at all, then I'd be rather fkd off (mind you, this is not too far away from what I am hearing).
This population has respected the ever-changing rules very well. Most are sick to death of the rules and want out. If they are being fed a lie, then don't be surprised if there will be rioting just like in Italy and Poland (conveniently covered up by the MSM).
Once again, in case this point has slipped you by, the current survival rate is around 99.9%!
Z4C_er said:enuff_zed said:
If I was told to take a vaccine, then took the vaccine only to be told it really wont help society at all, then I'd be rather fkd off (mind you, this is not too far away from what I am hearing).
This population has respected the ever-changing rules very well. Most are sick to death of the rules and want out. If they are being fed a lie, then don't be surprised if there will be rioting just like in Italy and Poland (conveniently covered up by the MSM).
Once again, in case this point has slipped you by, the current survival rate is around 99.9%!
The families of 100,000+ people would be disappointed by the last sentence.
The point has not slipped me by at all.
I made a different point, based on my own opinion.......did that slip you by? :wink:
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Nictrix said:
Z4C_er said:
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Both are facts.enuff_zed said:Z4C_er said:enuff_zed said:
If I was told to take a vaccine, then took the vaccine only to be told it really wont help society at all, then I'd be rather fkd off (mind you, this is not too far away from what I am hearing).
This population has respected the ever-changing rules very well. Most are sick to death of the rules and want out. If they are being fed a lie, then don't be surprised if there will be rioting just like in Italy and Poland (conveniently covered up by the MSM).
Once again, in case this point has slipped you by, the current survival rate is around 99.9%!
The families of 100,000+ people would be disappointed by the last sentence.
The point has not slipped me by at all.
I made a different point, based on my own opinion.......did that slip you by? :wink:
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If you are old (or young but a little deranged) and all you care about is locking up the whole country for your own safety (and don't care about any of the economic or social implications for the young or future generations). Then you sir, or madam probably need locking up yourself (but not for the same reasons).
But seriously, great news on the transmission. I think we are slowly turning the corner.
But seriously, great news on the transmission. I think we are slowly turning the corner.
mgrlane said:
Assuming this was aimed at me, then please note I never mentioned locking up the whole country, merely that people should follow the rules.
The rules may not be the correct ones, but like any experiment, if you do not stick to the parameters set, you will never get a correct answer.
So, in all likelihood a lockdown is not the complete answer, but we will never know, and therefore never be able to apply the correct procedure the next time this happens, because so many people choose to ignore the parameters.
Who knows, maybe, if we had all adhered rigidly to the rules the first time round then they may have already been proven to be incorrect and maybe we wouldn't be subjected to them again, but be looking at different options.
This is pure theorizing on my part obviously, but my point is, don't dismiss something if you haven't tried it and been able to prove it either right or wrong.
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enuff_zed said:
It wasn't particularly aimed at anyone. I guess it could be seen to be aimed at Nictrix's comment but I wasn't directly replying to him/her.
I saw one comment about locking everyone up as 100k people have died and another comment about 99.9% survival rate and wrote what came into my head.
enuff_zed said:
I can only speak for myself but I’ll be carrying on pretty much as I am currently. As far as I’m concerned I’m seeing getting the vaccine as more protection for my system not that it’ll allow me to do anything that I can’t just now.
I decided to drive down the high street again today, at a different time of day to previous.
Guess which age group made up nearly the entirety of those out and about, shopping as usual
Yep, you guessed it, the same demographic that we are meant to be shielding
So my daughter is at home trying to teach herself quadratic equations, so that we can protect the vulnerable, while the “non-shielding” 80 year olds are out shopping like normal.
I’ve not been at the weekend but no doubt it’s busy on a Saturday, with people of all ages carrying on as normal, just with a mask on
So it got me thinking, rather than when will this nightmare end, I think it’s now a case of how much longer will the public put up with this.
I think once the vulnerable are vaccinated people will be ignoring all restrictions on mass
Guess which age group made up nearly the entirety of those out and about, shopping as usual
Yep, you guessed it, the same demographic that we are meant to be shielding
So my daughter is at home trying to teach herself quadratic equations, so that we can protect the vulnerable, while the “non-shielding” 80 year olds are out shopping like normal.
I’ve not been at the weekend but no doubt it’s busy on a Saturday, with people of all ages carrying on as normal, just with a mask on
So it got me thinking, rather than when will this nightmare end, I think it’s now a case of how much longer will the public put up with this.
I think once the vulnerable are vaccinated people will be ignoring all restrictions on mass
Yes that would be a wonderful thing, unfortunately that is their modus operandi in just about all they do and report. I think/hope that the MSM is going the way of the dodo with alternate news sources filling the void.Nanu said:
The chances of them dropping their scaremongering and biased views are probably about the same as me winning the lottery, slim to none.
I think good can come out of this whole mess as more people realize that they are being played and will stand up for themselves and resist. Some of the videos I have watched of police abuse on citizens who have committed no crime but simply resisted Covid tyranny are frightening. The word Nazi comes to mind frequently when I view these so called public serpents (not a typo) abusing their power.
How far will people allow themselves to be abused, lied to and controlled before we say “Enough !” ? The power does reside with us, there truly are more of us than there are of them. But, as long as people roll over and submit the more abuses we will suffer. History teaches us that the weak can overcome the strong, there is power in numbers!
The news on transmission reduction from the Oxford vaccine is great news and seems to be evident in the fall of new cases over the last few days.
It certainly lifted my spirits to hear this today, although it’s far too early to even think about easing any restrictions.
It certainly lifted my spirits to hear this today, although it’s far too early to even think about easing any restrictions.
dr_john said:
Realistically I think that's very very optimistic owing it all to the vaccine, its far more likely that as the weather has been garbage and everyone has been locked inside and even less likely to go out due to said weather that's reduced the cased, also being garbage weather the testing was probably lower as well.