The jab ..

[pvr]

With the COVID jab being rolled out, and with probably a lot of pressure to take it (think travel restrictions if you don't have some sort of certificate or so), what is the view on the pickup of this one.

Just curious as there seem to be some very strong opinions about it.

 

[Nictrix]

I think you need another choice in there.
I wouldnt want to be trying out the first round but understand that everybody will be pressured into getting it one way or the other.

 

[pvr]

Ok - have added the "wait and see" option as well

 

[enuff_zed]

I'm liking the idea that all the oldies are getting it first so we can see what happens to them before we decide. :wink:

In all seriousness though, I'd have it. Had some crap in my life and decided live for the day. Love my Caribbean holidays and if I need a jab to go then sod it.

Back in 1990 I was lined up in a hangar with about 200 others and we walked between two trestle tables with both sleeves rolled up. I think it was either 6 or 7 jabs we got, all in one go. Most of us were ill for a week afterwards and many of us have had some odd issues ever since. Still not entirely sure what we were filled up with?
Got through that ok (in fact the extra fingers come in handy )

So yeah, I'll give it a go.

 

[mmm-five]

I'm in one of the low-level 'vulnerable' groups (fat-man diabetes), so will probably be offered it...already had my seasonal flu jab this year.

I will probably be offered whatever version is available, and don't think I can choose to wait for our own company's version (may be some months away).

It may even be mandatory within some companies if staff want to return to the office...our's is currently running at about 10% capacity, and that's mostly facilities/security staff.

As others have said, I'm not worried about catching it, and don't think I've ever had anything worse than a slight cold...but if it means I can visit family & friends without risking their health - some of whom have been in quarantine/lockdown since March - then I'm up for it.

I don't care what the wibble-wibble, freeman of the land, flat-earther, moon-landing conspiracists think - but I'll be happy if they refuse the vaccine and also refuse treatment if they get ill :wkr:

 

[brillomaster]

if it means i can go on holidays then yes, i'd have the jab. however, as a perfectly healthy 33 year old, there will be many, many people in line before me to get it.

and to clarify, i wouldnt be getting it because i'm particularly worried about catching COVID-19 myself, its purely so i can go on holidays again. i dont get the flu jab.

 

[obewan]

Interesting that people choose 'after the first round' when thousands have already had it and some months ago :?
Each to their own. I saw a nurse on TV this morning asking if it was compulsory for NHS staff to have it.

 

[enuff_zed]

and to clarify, i wouldnt be getting it because i'm particularly worried about catching COVID-19 myself, its purely so i can go on holidays again. i dont get the flu jab.

There's also the case that, if a large percentage of the younger population decide they don't want/need it, then they could still be running around infecting others, plus we'll struggle to get to that 'herd immunity' point.

 

[jabber]

I will definitely have it already get flu jab as in some at risk category and I want to be able to actually enjoy my retirement

 

[brillomaster]

i think the jab should be like trackday insurance... YOU get it if YOU want to be protected. I'm not that fussed about getting it as i'm not that worried about being protected from it - but i'd encourage my parents to get it so they are protected - not just from me when i go visit them, but from anyone else they might come into contact with.

exactly the same as the flu jab each winter.

 

[TitanTim]

Can't wait to get it and move on from this ASAP

Tim.

 

[mgrlane]

As a healthy 36 year old I see no point in getting one myself. I have way less chance of death that the 99.97(or what ever number it is) suggests because that number includes all you 70 and 80 year old Z4 owners oke: and smokers, people who like to eat a lot and people with health conditions. So my chances are slim to none.

I don't have a flu vaccination so why would I have this. I bet I have more chance (statistically) of death from driving an e86 20k miles than I have of some virus that stole its name off a crap beer.

But if you could all have one and we can get back to normal soon I would much appreciate it.

Mike

 

[mgrlane]

and to clarify, i wouldnt be getting it because i'm particularly worried about catching COVID-19 myself, its purely so i can go on holidays again. i dont get the flu jab.

There's also the case that, if a large percentage of the younger population decide they don't want/need it, then they could still be running around infecting others, plus we'll struggle to get to that 'herd immunity' point.

No evidence out there to suggest that even if you had the jab that you couldn't still be out there running around infecting others.

No one knows I am afraid. It's all to new for anyone to define this.

 

[IRD]

At 76 with underlying health issues I won’t hesitate. The sooner the better.

 

[enuff_zed]

and to clarify, i wouldnt be getting it because i'm particularly worried about catching COVID-19 myself, its purely so i can go on holidays again. i dont get the flu jab.

There's also the case that, if a large percentage of the younger population decide they don't want/need it, then they could still be running around infecting others, plus we'll struggle to get to that 'herd immunity' point.

No evidence out there to suggest that even if you had the jab that you couldn't still be out there running around infecting others.

No one knows I am afraid. It's all to new for anyone to define this.

Fair point as it's too early to tell. But if you don't have it you definitely will be. If you do, then maybe you won't be. If too many people don't, then we'll never be in a position to know if it works like that or not.

 

[TitanTim]

As a healthy 36 year old I see no point in getting one myself. I have way less chance of death that the 99.97(or what ever number it is) suggests because that number includes all you 70 and 80 year old Z4 owners oke: and smokers, people who like to eat a lot and people with health conditions. So my chances are slim to none.

I don't have a flu vaccination so why would I have this. I bet I have more chance (statistically) of death from driving an e86 20k miles than I have of some virus that stole its name off a crap beer.

But if you could all have one and we can get back to normal soon I would much appreciate it.

Mike

Afraid I'm going to bite :tumbleweed:

The above statement is pretty selfish way of looking at it, the virus is very infectious and whilst you might not suffer any I'll effects if you caught it you will be merrily spreading it about, and why ramping up testing is also important.

Just saying

Tim.

 

[mgrlane]

There's also the case that, if a large percentage of the younger population decide they don't want/need it, then they could still be running around infecting others, plus we'll struggle to get to that 'herd immunity' point.

No evidence out there to suggest that even if you had the jab that you couldn't still be out there running around infecting others.

No one knows I am afraid. It's all to new for anyone to define this.

Fair point as it's too early to tell. But if you don't have it you definitely will be. If you do, then maybe you won't be. If too many people don't, then we'll never be in a position to know if it works like that or not.

That's a very good point but I don't think we should force young healthy people who don't want to take the jab to have one on the chance.

My guess is that there already is a decent heard immunity. Give the old and the at risk the jab (if they want it) and don't restrict young people if they don't take it.

If the people who don't want to have the jab are happy to get the 'vid (I am sure they are otherwise they would have the jab) then let them get on with it- they will only be passing it on to other's that have consented to it by not having the jab?

Everyone is a winner.

 

[Jembo]

What guarantee will be given should what they inject go tits up... I bet absolutely nothing & you’ll be dead or incapacitated before you can fight it.

Given the huge amount of current legal cases against pharmaceutical companies over their drugs, past challenges with DDT, continued use of banned food ingredients (eg safrole etc...) in medicine, accepted wisdom it takes at least 5 years to stabilise a proper vaccine... I would certainly not want to be one of the first test mules.

I can already see Dell boy rubbing his hands & looking to make a nice little earner on some fake certificates

 

[mr.tourette]

being in the trials I've already had something..whether its the vaccine or placebo I don't know as they're double blind tests

 

[mgrlane]

As a healthy 36 year old I see no point in getting one myself. I have way less chance of death that the 99.97(or what ever number it is) suggests because that number includes all you 70 and 80 year old Z4 owners oke: and smokers, people who like to eat a lot and people with health conditions. So my chances are slim to none.

I don't have a flu vaccination so why would I have this. I bet I have more chance (statistically) of death from driving an e86 20k miles than I have of some virus that stole its name off a crap beer.

But if you could all have one and we can get back to normal soon I would much appreciate it.

Mike

Afraid I'm going to bite :tumbleweed:

The above statement is pretty selfish way of looking at it, the virus is very infectious and whilst you might not suffer any I'll effects if you caught it you will be merrily spreading it about, and why ramping up testing is also important.

Just saying

Tim.

I wasn't trying to get a bite other than calling you lot old.

I see what you are saying Tim and I understand.

But might I suggest that if you and I are in the same room this time next year and you have had the jab then you are safe right? Alongside everyone else who is at risk who has also had the jab.

So I won't effect you and the only way of me catching the virus is from people that haven't (by choice) had the jab (or you if you can be a carrier but won't get ill). I am happy with this arrangement.

I am also happy with not seeing any of my family who are in the high risk group until they have had the jab. Or they make a decision as a grown adult to see me (and I will get a test before hand).

Always two sides to every coin.