Speed awareness course

[Ste]

Yeah apparently if you're much more then 10mph over you get the automatic 3points/£60fine but you get the choice to go on the course instead if you're marginally over.

 

[RubyBlueZ4MC]

Yeah apparently if you're much more then 10mph over you get the automatic 3points/£60fine but you get the choice to go on the course instead if you're marginally over.

I'm sure I got 3 points in 2009 for doing 36 in a 30 or something like that. I wasn't offered a course

 

[Adamski]

I thought you got 2mph plus 10% of the limit, thus 35mph is the point at which you attract attention? (Source: UK Driving Secrets)

 

[Stuart Truman]

I thought you got 2mph plus 10% of the limit, thus 35mph is the point at which you attract attention? (Source: UK Driving Secrets)

Depends if the coffers are low and need topping up

 

[mmm-five]

I thought you got 2mph plus 10% of the limit, thus 35mph is the point at which you attract attention? (Source: UK Driving Secrets)

That's the 'guideline' limit for prosecution, and not a legal requirement.

But it's also a good excuse to get some easy cash from the cash-cow that is the motorist.

You used to never see anyone get a ticket/course for 35 in a 30 as there'd be so many the courts/camera partnerships couldn't cope - so they had to set the prosecution thresholds higher. Now that there's a cash only option that will remove 90% of their 'awkward' cases, they see it's an easy option.

 

[Adamski]

Bugger


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[TO//M]

Anecdote: My brother used to work in the US Defense Industry. Over the years, he met many interesting individuals who worked with some pretty interesting projects and devices. One of the scientists upgraded the power system of his Corvette to 24 volts and then installed a radar jammer that the lab was developing. End result? It could fry the electronics of the speed radar units on the dashes of local law enforcement at a distance of 2000 meters. Truth be told, it could have also have sterilized the unsheilded driver and cooked a chicken at 10 meters.

 

[ZedFourM]

I'm on holiday in California at the moment. This morning at about 7am I was on my way to Yosemite when I passed a police car at the side of the road. Knew immediately that I was over the limit and that was confirmed a few seconds later when his blue and red lights came on.

I indicated, pulled over and waited. He told me that I had been doing 49mph in a 35mph zone. Looked at my license and the hire car documents, and then told Mr to keep within the speed limits in future. "You can't miss them - we print then on black on white!"

I am a very lucky boy, and kept to the speed limits for the rest of the day!

(We have a Mitsubishi Eclipse convertible as our hire car. Not bad, but no Z4M.)

 

[Citation 650]

I'm on holiday in California at the moment. This morning at about 7am I was on my way to Yosemite when I passed a police car at the side of the road. Knew immediately that I was over the limit and that was confirmed a few seconds later when his blue and red lights came on.

I indicated, pulled over and waited. He told me that I had been doing 49mph in a 35mph zone. Looked at my license and the hire car documents, and then told Mr to keep within the speed limits in future. "You can't miss them - we print then on black on white!"

I am a very lucky boy, and kept to the speed limits for the rest of the day!

(We have a Mitsubishi Eclipse convertible as our hire car. Not bad, but no Z4M.)

Years ago, the California Highway Patrol used Chevy Camaros for a while. They were so doggy, people could out run them. Those that pulled over, the officer was suppose to say: "Thanks for pulling over."

 

[Lillywhite]

.....for doing 36 in a 30 or something like that.......

Out of interest, your speedo would have been showing 40mph if the camera recorded you doing 36.

In Rutland there are speed signs in many locations showing your actual car speed as you enter a town/village. Without exception all theses signs show a lower speed than that being recorded on my speedo.

 

[bcworkz]

I gave them an ear full about those motorway signs that say 40mph even when the hazard cleared hours ago... siad if they want to be taken seriously and really make the place safer then they should stop crying wolf. He didn't seem to impressed.

Should have at least acknowledged it IS an established principle. The following reference does not apply in the UK, but does demonstrate it is an established principle amongst highway engineering folk.

The use of warning signs should be kept to a minimum as the unnecessary use of warning signs tends to breed disrespect for all signs. In situations where the condition or activity is seasonal or temporary, the warning sign should be removed or covered when the condition or activity does not exist.

Unfortunately, this is a guideline, not a mandatory standard, so we continue to see "Wolf!" signage everywhere.

 

[T2FFN]

I recently did a trip up and down the country and when seeing those overhead motorway signs saying 60...50...40 for no reason with no traffic, I don't alter speed. To my knowledge they aren't watched by speed cameras and are more of an advisory...?


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[K99]

I recently did a trip up and down the country and when seeing those overhead motorway signs saying 60...50...40 for no reason with no traffic, I don't alter speed. To my knowledge they aren't watched by speed cameras and are more of an advisory...?
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Overhead gantries quite often have Gatsco or other speed cameras on them.
Apparentely some forces will flash you if you are over 100mph even if they are not showing a speed limit.
Also they will flash you if you go over the speed displayed but usually at a higher tolerance/speed than the Gatso you'd see at the side of the road.
I agree that quite often there are activated on clear roads and it is frustrating, but you are taking a real risk in not slowing down.

 

[mmm-five]

I recently did a trip up and down the country and when seeing those overhead motorway signs saying 60...50...40 for no reason with no traffic, I don't alter speed. To my knowledge they aren't watched by speed cameras and are more of an advisory...?

Depends on the type of sign/gantry.

If they're the managed motorway ones that have a solid white speed limit on a black background then it's enforced by the gantry camera on every 3rd/4th gantry. If there's a limit showing then about 10mph (speed-indicated) above the posted limit seems to be safe. If there's no limit posted, then they can have the cameras trigger at whatever speed above 70mph they wish, but I've never head of anyone getting a ticket from them for below 100mph.

If it's the flashing amber ones at the side/above the motorway - or a square black on white one approaching a bend - then they're advisory and are not enforced by camera. Although if there's an accident and you can be shown to have been travelling above those advisory limits then you may be apportioned more blame than otherwise.

 

[BMWZ4MC]

I recently did a trip up and down the country and when seeing those overhead motorway signs saying 60...50...40 for no reason with no traffic, I don't alter speed. To my knowledge they aren't watched by speed cameras and are more of an advisory...?

Depends on the type of sign/gantry.

If they're the managed motorway ones that have a solid white speed limit on a black background then it's enforced by the gantry camera on every 3rd/4th gantry. If there's a limit showing then about 10mph (speed-indicated) above the posted limit seems to be safe. If there's no limit posted, then they can have the cameras trigger at whatever speed above 70mph they wish, but I've never head of anyone getting a ticket from them for below 100mph.

If it's the flashing amber ones at the side/above the motorway - or a square black on white one approaching a bend - then they're advisory and are not enforced by camera. Although if there's an accident and you can be shown to have been travelling above those advisory limits then you may be apportioned more blame than otherwise.

As above, but importantly if there's a red ring around the posted number then it is an enforced limit. I was flashed at 85 on the M25 in the variable speed limit section when no limit was posted but I didn't receive a ticket.