Scrapage Scheme Madness

[SonnyA85]

For £50 a month extra, I'll stick with petrol thanks.

Me too.

These leasing charges will increase once road pricing kicks in or they slap a VEL on EV’s to replace the money lost on petrol car excise duty

They already get 5% VAT on the electric. They would need to scrap vat on domestic energy before doing that.

 

[SonnyA85]

Did I see someone mention "range anxiety"? This is range anxiety, when running out of fuel can literally be a life or death situation. Might work in the city's but no EV's out there.

In that situation I'd be screwed in my Z4 too

LOL....we carry jerry cans when outback.....bit hard to carry a spare battery though.

Solar panels on the sunroof in the future would trickle charge enough over long journeys in sunny locations like Australia to get you there just. They have just invented a solar panel that works at night now too in America at MIT.

Tech is advancing so fast that buying an ev now it becomes outdated pretty fast. They are coming along so fast now what isn't possible today will be soon enough.

Same goes for why solar wasn't a viable option in the past and now why it could be an option as panels nowadays produce 33% more energy of older panels of 5 years ago. Which is a massive amount of improvement in a short period of time.

Therefore I can see in the future they will actually become a viable option for car charging especially in sunny locations as a trickle charge option just to top up the battery rather than a full charge from empty.

 

[Pondrew]

Solar panels on the sunroof in the future would trickle charge enough over long journeys in sunny locations like Australia to get you there just. They have just invented a solar panel that works at night now too in America at MIT.

Mmmmmm.......classy!

 

[True-Blue]

Solar panels on the sunroof in the future would trickle charge enough over long journeys in sunny locations like Australia to get you there just. They have just invented a solar panel that works at night now too in America at MIT.

Mmmmmm.......classy!
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Also, takes 10 full sized solar panels to charge a medium sized electric vehicle… according to Google, might as well go the whole hog and have a sort of sail made of solar panels - you can harness the power of the wind!…. As long as it’s blowing in the direction you want to go

 

[MikeyH]

No good for a soft top though

 

[True-Blue]

No good for a soft top though

Plenty of sail boats don’t have roofs? :scratchhead:

 

[MikeyH]

 

[Scubaregs]

So we all go to EV's by 2030, chargers are everywhere and range is a distant worry. What do we use to produce the electricity?

 

[Smartbear]

So we all go to EV's by 2030, chargers are everywhere and range is a distant worry. What do we use to produce the electricity?

Maybe if we asked Russia nicely they’d oblige :?
Rob

 

[Scubaregs]

So we all go to EV's by 2030, chargers are everywhere and range is a distant worry. What do we use to produce the electricity?

Maybe if we asked Russia nicely they’d oblige :?
Rob

My worry is they would deliver via ICBM.

 

[pvr]

At that stage, the EVs will be running economy batteries that run at half capacity and the car won’t be able to exceed 50 mph or so. Achieves all goals in one go then

 

[axelleveau]

No one said all cars would tranform into EVs on new years eve of 2030... if we mandate 100% EVs sale from 2030 that will take another 15 years to reach 90+% of actual EVs on the road, so that now gives us 23 years to get there which is plenty of time for BoJo to build a dozen nuclear reactors (more reliable to charge for december holidays when there is no wind IMHO). It also align well with carbon neutrality goals for 2050

 

[MikeyH]

We could run the EVs using all the hot air from the Houses of Parliament, ‘gasogate’? Hot air turbines would work a treat with all of that

 

[Nanu]

We could generate all the electricity we want if we used our coal, oil and gas reserves.

Now there is a novel idea. Why hasn’t anyone thought about it already?

 

[Pondrew]

We could generate all the electricity we want if we used our coal, oil and gas reserves.

Now there is a novel idea. Why hasn’t anyone thought about it already?

Last time I looked, my electricity was made up from 11% coal. How 'green' is that?
EVs powered by coal....what a step forward.

The 'renewables' can count this one out for a while (this is a commercial turbine which is sited in a field opposite my last house). The farmer apparently got paid £80k for each turbine (2 off), and £10k a year every year. They reduce the crop production area by 36m2 each plus 30m2 for the control shed. The access road takes approx 2 acres out of a 150 acre field.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AvRzwUwqtU

 

[Nanu]

Just going slightly off topic (Apologies) but our local authority earlier this year gave planning permission for 4,000 new houses all of which are being built on what was farm land. In addition to Pondrew's comments above, how much food production is that loosing?

 

[MikeyH]

Well, well. The government has just announced ending the EV grant. What is next, full road tax for them? :thumbsdown:

 

[pvr]

EV grant was a bit rubbish reallly, I ordered an ID3 and that didn't attract any grant as it was over the allowable price. So unless you buy something really cheap, there was no contribution anyway.

 

[Nanu]

Well, well. The government has just announced ending the EV grant. What is next, full road tax for them? :thumbsdown:

Road pricing per mile. Only a matter of time.

 

[SonnyA85]

Well, well. The government has just announced ending the EV grant. What is next, full road tax for them? :thumbsdown:

Road pricing per mile. Only a matter of time.

Need to zero rate domestic energy before they bring that in.