Rules relaxation and idiots

Nictrix said:
Oooooh. Thats a bit of a stereotypical view there.
Im obviously a Scot and dont drink or smoke. Im not obese either.

Clearly joking there... I only put it in to get a nibble. :thumbsup:
 
mgrlane said:
Nictrix said:
Oooooh. Thats a bit of a stereotypical view there.
Im obviously a Scot and dont drink or smoke. Im not obese either.

Clearly joking there... I only put it in to get a nibble. :thumbsup:

When you’re in a hole - stop digging! :rofl:
 
Having watched Boris and Matt Hancock today saying don't travel to red listed countries, only travel to Amber if urgent but quarantine on return, and you can holiday to green listed countries but still have to be tested, I found it very frustrating to watch BBC presenters on The One show ALL say it was confusing? What exactly is confusing?

Am I super intelligent (Don't think so) or is it the media just trying to tell us it's confusing to create an anti govt. story?
 
Pondrew said:
mgrlane said:
For context there are over 1 million people a year admitted to hospital through obesity. If we reject young and healthy people from society who don't want to take part in this vaccine trail then fatties should be way in front of them. And don't get me started on smokers or drunks (sorry Scot's)
I am not going to argue about this issue again and all of the above may be true BUT none of those people have prevented the rest of society from going about their daily lives.
I don't remember, in my 53 years, ever having been denied doing anything (lawful) because there are too many fat people in the Country.
Cheers
Les
Except getting a seat on a bus? :cry:
 
Nanu said:
Having watched Boris and Matt Hancock today saying don't travel to red listed countries, only travel to Amber if urgent but quarantine on return, and you can holiday to green listed countries but still have to be tested, I found it very frustrating to watch BBC presenters on The One show ALL say it was confusing? What exactly is confusing?

Am I super intelligent (Don't think so) or is it the media just trying to tell us it's confusing to create an anti govt. story?
Im not saying that you dont understand what they have said but,
If you are not allowed to travel to red listed countries then the sensible thing to do would be to stop flying planes there.
If there is a flight going somewhere and people can book a ticket they will go. If there are no planes going to these countries you cannot book a ticket therefore you cannot go.
I saw something the other day about flights coming in from India while they were talking about the worrying Indian variant, there were half a dozen planes a day coming in, probably still is.
 
Nictrix said:
I saw something the other day about flights coming in from India while they were talking about the worrying Indian variant, there were half a dozen planes a day coming in, probably still is.
I fear this may be something to do with size and power of international airlines. I do work for one of them and they are only interested in getting their revenue streams back.
 
Pondrew said:
Nictrix said:
I saw something the other day about flights coming in from India while they were talking about the worrying Indian variant, there were half a dozen planes a day coming in, probably still is.
I fear this may be something to do with size and power of international airlines. I do work for one of them and they are only interested in getting their revenue streams back.
Didn't have you down as a trolley dolly :|
 
firebobby said:
Didn't have you down as a trolley dolly
I am not a trolley dolly, I cut the grooves into the tyres when they get below 1.6mm, so they can get an MOT 8)
 
TitanTim said:
Listening to my local radio this morning there was quite a debate centered around should those who are declining the vaccine simply because they don't want it rather than for medical reasons be made to accept it :tumbleweed:

Tim.
So what would you say the majority opinion of those calling in was?

I can tell you for certain NO ONE will "make me accept it." As many on the pro-choice group here in the US have said, "My body my choice". Seems to be accepted for the pro-choice crowd but not so much for the no-vaccine crowd...Hmmmm.
 
Old-Duckman said:
TitanTim said:
Listening to my local radio this morning there was quite a debate centered around should those who are declining the vaccine simply because they don't want it rather than for medical reasons be made to accept it :tumbleweed:

Tim.
So what would you say the majority opinion of those calling in was?

I can tell you for certain NO ONE will "make me accept it." As many on the pro-choice group here in the US have said, "My body my choice". Seems to be accepted for the pro-choice crowd but not so much for the no-vaccine crowd...Hmmmm.

Basically one word "selfish" :o

Tim.
 
Old-Duckman said:
TitanTim said:
Listening to my local radio this morning there was quite a debate centered around should those who are declining the vaccine simply because they don't want it rather than for medical reasons be made to accept it :tumbleweed:

Tim.
So what would you say the majority opinion of those calling in was?

I can tell you for certain NO ONE will "make me accept it." As many on the pro-choice group here in the US have said, "My body my choice". Seems to be accepted for the pro-choice crowd but not so much for the no-vaccine crowd...Hmmmm.
Maybe one is seen as a medical choice based on individual circumstance and with no/little effect on the wider population (other than the nutter protesters on either side), and the other is seen as a global public health emergency :o

If you can't see the difference, then I'll leave you alone in your own little bubble!

I'm happy/supportive for any private individual to choose not to have any vaccine or any medical treatment (even if it's necessary to prolong their life - as it's THEIR CHOICE)...but I'm equally happy/supportive for any privately-owned company to institute their own health policies to protect the rest of their staff from those who don't care about public health...because that's also THEIR CHOICE...unless you want to 'make them accept' non-vaccinated staff!

Don't forget that having the choice means taking responsibility for your own choice.

It's like the people travelling abroad with no travel insurance - as they chose not to buy it as it was "so expensive", even though they paid £8k for a "holiday of a lifetime". Then they start a GoFundMe pages with sob stories when their family get stuck in a foreign country unable to afford the flights home or hospital bills when one of them gets ill. StupidCharitable people still bail them out, so they'll never learn.
 
Nictrix said:
Nanu said:
Having watched Boris and Matt Hancock today saying don't travel to red listed countries, only travel to Amber if urgent but quarantine on return, and you can holiday to green listed countries but still have to be tested, I found it very frustrating to watch BBC presenters on The One show ALL say it was confusing? What exactly is confusing?

Am I super intelligent (Don't think so) or is it the media just trying to tell us it's confusing to create an anti govt. story?
Im not saying that you dont understand what they have said but,
If you are not allowed to travel to red listed countries then the sensible thing to do would be to stop flying planes there.
If there is a flight going somewhere and people can book a ticket they will go. If there are no planes going to these countries you cannot book a ticket therefore you cannot go.
I saw something the other day about flights coming in from India while they were talking about the worrying Indian variant, there were half a dozen planes a day coming in, probably still is.
The point is this travel stuff is only advice and not Law as Matt Hancock said, they hope the public will act responsibly. There are some circumstances where a person can travel too or from a red or amber listed country but the quarantine rules then apply when they enter the UK.
As such the airlines who want to make money still fly to these places and are not bothered if their passengers then have to quarantine.

My other question would be if traveling is against Govt advice then surely these people must realise their insurance will be null and void if they try to claim on it?
 
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