Roof Drainage Holes

[Nick7602]

now the front roof edge has located correctly and is sitting into the rubber seal as it should, also the glass came up which didn't happen when I raised and lowered the roof previously……..mmmmm sounds promising.

Nick

Hold on a sec Nick.
What do you mean by this?

Not sure What you mean Wanderer

 

[Nick7602]

I see what your saying,…….. I have never owned a convertible before so have no way of knowing if the roof is sitting correctly in its seal or not, with replacing the relays as mentioned and disconnecting the battery, the module will have re set itself, this has I believe
resulted in the front edge of the roof depressing the front windscreen roof seal sufficiently to create a better seal, which I assume is right?

Sorry guys for the poorly worded explanation previously

 

[enuff_zed]

Kind of makes sense. The last motion is the front locks pulling everything down tight.
Possibly a connection didn't quite make, or there wasn't enough power to fully pull it down.
Or maybe even someone let go of the button a tad too soon?
If you can now see it pulling in tight, where it didn't before, then hopefully all is good. Fingers crossed.

 

[wanderer]

I replaced the roof relays today

Nick

WOWzer! You do work fast!
I only just mentioned salmon relays a day or two ago.

 

[wanderer]

What are you using for diagnostics?
I'm using Carly and find it brilliant. But i have 2 BMW's (and a Saab) so it works out for me financially.

 

[RobbiZ4]

By Disconnecting the battery in itself will have re set the modules, whats termed in the trade as a hard battery re set, ...

No, that doesn't make any sense. If there is an issue, it will stay alive. There are no possible roof issues, that can be "resetted".

the down side is that any error P Codes historical and current may now be potentially lost...

No, nothing will be lost.

 

[Nick7602]

Hi Wanderer

A diagnostic tool I definitely want, I have VCDS for my Audis fantastic bit of kit.

But im open to suggestions regarding diag kit for the beemer

 

[Nick7602]

Hi Wanderer

A diagnostic tool I definitely want, I have VCDS for my Audis fantastic bit of kit.

But im open to suggestions regarding diag kit for the beemer

 

[Nick7602]

Kind of makes sense. The last motion is the front locks pulling everything down tight.
Possibly a connection didn't quite make, or there wasn't enough power to fully pull it down.
Or maybe even someone let go of the button a tad too soon?
If you can now see it pulling in tight, where it didn't before, then hopefully all is good. Fingers crossed.

Hi Enuff-Zed, this is just a guess but my thoughts are that the replaced relays were on the way out and we caught them early enough to replace, I should have also realised that doing a hard battery re set by disconnecting the battery does I think re set the modules on the car?

But looking at a previous post this isn't the case?…..which is interesting because the roof definitely latches properly now as you say

lets hope I can finally start to enjoy the car, fingers crossed…….ha ha ha I like your comment by the way about the button

 

[enuff_zed]

Kind of makes sense. The last motion is the front locks pulling everything down tight.
Possibly a connection didn't quite make, or there wasn't enough power to fully pull it down.
Or maybe even someone let go of the button a tad too soon?
If you can now see it pulling in tight, where it didn't before, then hopefully all is good. Fingers crossed.

Hi Enuff-Zed, this is just a guess but my thoughts are that the replaced relays were on the way out and we caught them early enough to replace, I should have also realised that doing a hard battery re set by disconnecting the battery does I think re set the modules on the car?

But looking at a previous post this isn't the case?…..which is interesting because the roof definitely latches properly now as you say

lets hope I can finally start to enjoy the car, fingers crossed…….ha ha ha I like your comment by the way about the button

Hi, well hope it's all sorted, however it happened.
You would do well to pay attention to [ref]RobbiZ4[/ref] on all things to do with E89 roof operations.
Follow the links in his signature block. The man is a roof magician.

 

[Zed Baron]

I did wonder how long it may of sat at the car lot, with other people pressing the roof button and the battery getting weaker and weaker. Be interesting to see how old the battery is in the car (date stamp normally on the top of the negative post)... yes RobbiZ4 is the man when it comes to E89 roofs!

 

[Nick7602]

Kind of makes sense. The last motion is the front locks pulling everything down tight.
Possibly a connection didn't quite make, or there wasn't enough power to fully pull it down.
Or maybe even someone let go of the button a tad too soon?
If you can now see it pulling in tight, where it didn't before, then hopefully all is good. Fingers crossed.

Hi Enuff-Zed, this is just a guess but my thoughts are that the replaced relays were on the way out and we caught them early enough to replace, I should have also realised that doing a hard battery re set by disconnecting the battery does I think re set the modules on the car?

But looking at a previous post this isn't the case?…..which is interesting because the roof definitely latches properly now as you say

lets hope I can finally start to enjoy the car, fingers crossed…….ha ha ha I like your comment by the way about the button

Hi, well hope it's all sorted, however it happened.
You would do well to pay attention to [ref]RobbiZ4[/ref] on all things to do with E89 roof operations.
Follow the links in his signature block. The man is a roof magician.

Thank you for the advice

 

[Nick7602]

I did wonder how long it may of sat at the car lot, with other people pressing the roof button and the battery getting weaker and weaker. Be interesting to see how old the battery is in the car (date stamp normally on the top of the negative post)... yes RobbiZ4 is the man when it comes to E89 roofs!

Well at least I know now who to go to for issues relating to the roof, wished Ide have known about him earlier

 

[Deepseaskateboard]

I see what your saying,…….. I have never owned a convertible before so have no way of knowing if the roof is sitting correctly in its seal or not, with replacing the relays as mentioned and disconnecting the battery, the module will have re set itself, this has I believe
resulted in the front edge of the roof depressing the front windscreen roof seal sufficiently to create a better seal, which I assume is right?

Sorry guys for the poorly worded explanation previously

Have you tried adding some lithium grease to the roof latch points on the top of the windscreen?

Could help, at it’s a metal on metal contact point.

I don’t think it can hurt. I know some people advise not to lubricate any part of the roof system, but I am not sure if the latch points fall under this advice.

Others may advise differently, but I think it could help if that is the route of the issue.

Perhaps take this with pinch of salt.

 

[Nick7602]

I see what your saying,…….. I have never owned a convertible before so have no way of knowing if the roof is sitting correctly in its seal or not, with replacing the relays as mentioned and disconnecting the battery, the module will have re set itself, this has I believe
resulted in the front edge of the roof depressing the front windscreen roof seal sufficiently to create a better seal, which I assume is right?

Sorry guys for the poorly worded explanation previously

Have you tried adding some lithium grease to the roof latch points on the top of the windscreen?

Could help, at it’s a metal on metal contact point.

I don’t think it can hurt. I know some people advise not to lubricate any part of the roof system, but I am not sure if the latch points fall under this advice.

Others may advise differently, but I think it could help if that is the route of the issue.

Perhaps take this with pinch of salt.

I think looking after the seals going forward as a couple of posters have said is well worth doing. Had a water ingress through porous door seals on a porsche I used to own.

 

[Nick7602]

By Disconnecting the battery in itself will have re set the modules, whats termed in the trade as a hard battery re set, ...

No, that doesn't make any sense. If there is an issue, it will stay alive. There are no possible roof issues, that can be "resetted".

the down side is that any error P Codes historical and current may now be potentially lost...

No, nothing will be lost.

Hi RobbiZ4

What are your thoughts regarding my concern with the roof?……what would you advise?

 

[RobbiZ4]

Follow the links in his signature block.

Especially the minions link.

I know some people advise not to lubricate any part of the roof system, but I am not sure if the latch points fall under this advice.

Well, it's been me as well. The latches on the windscreen in very rare cases are an exception, indeed.

 

[RobbiZ4]

...but my thoughts are that the replaced relays were on the way out and we caught them early enough to replace,

The relay story is another one:
- they work or they don't work: the roof works fine or it stops inbetween, when the pump changes it's rotation direction
- the 2nd issue is the continously running hydraulic pump, that destroys itself when a relay contact got welded due to overaging (~8-10years)
- there can't be NOTHING in between or "halfways", the relays work fine or absolutely not.

Hi RobbiZ4
What are your thoughts regarding my concern with the roof?……what would you advise?

What is the remaining issue apart of dripping seals?
Keep all the seals cleaned up an use i.e. the following once a year:

 

[Nick7602]

Hi Robbiz4

Superb advice, will do and thank you, very much appreciated.

Nick

 

[RobbiZ4]

The man is a roof magician.

Reading this, I just feel as Albus Dumbledore.