Road Tax up again!
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CAR tax(VED) increases the month after the March budget, usually every year.
Liverpool
Rates effective from 1st April.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/299797/V149__2014-15.pdf
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/299797/V149__2014-15.pdf
This has to be a good reason to put it on fuel for private vehicles.
1) I do a fair few miles and should pay more 'road tax' than someone who does less.
2) If I drive like Hoke Coleburn then I use less fuel, create less pollution, and pay less 'road tax'
3) If I drive like Ken Block then I use more fuel, create more pollution, and pay more 'road tax'.
Wouldn't work for commercial vehicles as I think it's a lot cheaper for them to pay their road tax as one lump sum - so there'd have to be a way to ensure the surcharge does not get paid on commercial fuel sales, or pay it and then claim a rebate (using receipts as proof) when the company does its accounts.
1) I do a fair few miles and should pay more 'road tax' than someone who does less.
2) If I drive like Hoke Coleburn then I use less fuel, create less pollution, and pay less 'road tax'
3) If I drive like Ken Block then I use more fuel, create more pollution, and pay more 'road tax'.
Wouldn't work for commercial vehicles as I think it's a lot cheaper for them to pay their road tax as one lump sum - so there'd have to be a way to ensure the surcharge does not get paid on commercial fuel sales, or pay it and then claim a rebate (using receipts as proof) when the company does its accounts.
mmm-five said:
Never happen because it's all about emissions.
Mike8080 said:
Not to a low emissions vehicle doing a large mileage.
Our house is a bit Transport Tax Bipolar.
Car A: 2.0 Diesel work car on 68000 miles. ( 2 years in to lease)
Total VED paid £205
Fuel Cost £7500 ( of which £4500 is tax)
VED Cost = 0.3ppm
Fuel Tax cost = 6.6ppm
Car B:3.2 I6 Petrol 3000 miles (owned 1 year)
Total VED paid £495
Cost of fuel = £700 (of which £480 is tax)
VED Cost = 16.5ppm
Fuel Tax Cost = 16ppm
So I'm getting shafted on the ppm for the tax on the zed, and I'm getting shafted on the Fuel tax because my customers don't have machines that break down in geographical order!
So I benefit/get shafted either way, depending on whether my cup is half full or empty.
Car A: 2.0 Diesel work car on 68000 miles. ( 2 years in to lease)
Total VED paid £205
Fuel Cost £7500 ( of which £4500 is tax)
VED Cost = 0.3ppm
Fuel Tax cost = 6.6ppm
Car B:3.2 I6 Petrol 3000 miles (owned 1 year)
Total VED paid £495
Cost of fuel = £700 (of which £480 is tax)
VED Cost = 16.5ppm
Fuel Tax Cost = 16ppm
So I'm getting shafted on the ppm for the tax on the zed, and I'm getting shafted on the Fuel tax because my customers don't have machines that break down in geographical order!
So I benefit/get shafted either way, depending on whether my cup is half full or empty.
I can guarantee that when we are all driving emission free vehicles that you'll still get stiffed by VED. Emissions is the current ruse to stitch you up.
Love the Dutch logic there pvr - spend about £70k upgrading to save £250 a year on road fund!!
Love the Dutch logic there pvr - spend about £70k upgrading to save £250 a year on road fund!!
can't lie this is now... now JUST starting to get to me when the time comes around its starting to become an issue now... Not the cars fault by any means but the tiny mileage for 500 quid a year....
once I've had enough, the car will be sold, starting to think a cater ham would be much more suitable for me.
once I've had enough, the car will be sold, starting to think a cater ham would be much more suitable for me.
Lillywhite said:
What are you talking about? To make it fair, it should be put on fuel!
I do 5000 miles a year and have to pay 500 road tax. Yet people in their low emissions cars could be doing 4 times the mileage but only paying 30 quid. How is that fair?
If it was on fuel, it would be proportional to how much co2 you are actually putting out due to the fuel you are burning, so directly affected by the mileage you do and how efficient your car is. Absolutely fair to everyone.
original guvnor said:I can guarantee that when we are all driving emission free vehicles that you'll still get stiffed by VED. Emissions is the current ruse to stitch you up.
Love the Dutch logic there pvr - spend about £70k upgrading to save £250 a year on road fund!!
Yes, I will be rather old when I break even 8)
(cost to upgrade was over 80 as the base model is 93 without options)
