On the ? day of Christmas my Gov gave to me

titantim said:
sometimes reality hurts when seen through those rose tinted glasses.
tim.
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and the reality is tim you are a couple of bad statements away from being a full blown fascist at this stage, gold stars for the unvaccinated next, separate drinking fountains and all that.

see the internment camp in oz has had escapee's that were then manhunted by the cops and returned to the camp by force. they are also locking up people there that have tested negative for covid repeatedly and are preventing them from leaving their accommodation.

i can hear the marching songs in the distance.... erika
 
ronk said:
Here we go again!
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Lol, "here we go again" but saying unvaccinated people shouldnt be treated in hospitals (and in effect be left to die) is a completely acceptable and above board comment.... good one Ron
 
ronk said:
However Implying someone is a Nazi is not!
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When they start advocating for the "othering" of a whole group of people based solely on a personal choice... say for example their religion and speaking in support of withdrawing healthcare and other services for them and by extension allowing them to die because of their belief..... when it walks like a goose and honks like a goose :paper:
 
Also to be fair, I said he was getting/almost there, not there already

Flyingfifer said:
and the reality is tim you are a couple of bad statements away from being a full blown fascist at this stage, gold stars for the unvaccinated next, separate drinking fountains and all that.
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ronk said:
So that’s a yes - it is acceptable to imply someone is a Nazi?
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I said fascist and while the Nazi's were fascists they are not the same thing, for example Italy under Mussolini was fascist but not nazi.
I was saying that Tim is fast approaching the beliefs of a fascist for the reasons I have already outlined.
 
Your turn, are you saying its completely ok to advocate the revocation of healthcare and condemning people to die because you disagree with their beliefs?
 
ronk said:
I am not being sucked into yet another of your disruptive “discussions”.
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Then don't, I will ask you that one question and if you answer it that's the end of it, be brave Ron, prove me wrong, answer the question, show a bit of conviction rather than standing on your soap box and pontificating until you are asked a difficult question then you slink away.

Do you believe it is entirely acceptable, justified, above board and right to advocate the removal of medical care and by extension potentially causing the death of people because you disagree with their beliefs?
 
Human nature.

No one wants to admit that they might have been wrong about...whatever. And, men are worse admitting such than women and I think most of us here are men.

If we look at the developing facts it is becoming plainly apparent that the house of cards is falling and those who built that house, and even more so those who live in it, are desperately trying to prove that they were right all along. They try hardest to prove that to themselves.

The vaccines have proven themselves to be of little help and some evidence exists that they have been detrimental. This article spells it out rather well and is brief. Read it if you care to. https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/12/vasko-kohlmayer/alert-collapsing-of-the-vaccine-narrative/ its titled “Collapsing of the Vaccine Narrative”

If I honestly believed that the vaccine was safe and effective (as we were told endlessly in the beginning...not so much of late). And if I PERSONALLY feared the effects that I might suffer should I contract it, then I don’t think I would have hesitated to get the shot. Those two conditions were never met to my satisfaction.

This “pandemic” has been a great tool for fomenting factions, divide and conquer is in full force...at least the divide part. You might believe that was always part of a plan or you might think that is totally out of the realm of possibility. Which ever side you come down on with respect to the motivation behind these events, you surely cannot deny that it has divided the world’s population into two camps...Even in our own little world here.
 
Old-Duckman said:
Human nature.

No one wants to admit that they might have been wrong about...whatever. And, men are worse admitting such than women and I think most of us here are men.

If we look at the developing facts it is becoming plainly apparent that the house of cards is falling and those who built that house, and even more so those who live in it, are desperately trying to prove that they were right all along. They try hardest to prove that to themselves.

The vaccines have proven themselves to be of little help and some evidence exists that they have been detrimental. This article spells it out rather well and is brief. Read it if you care to. https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/12/vasko-kohlmayer/alert-collapsing-of-the-vaccine-narrative/ its titled “Collapsing of the Vaccine Narrative”

If I honestly believed that the vaccine was safe and effective (as we were told endlessly in the beginning...not so much of late). And if I PERSONALLY feared the effects that I might suffer should I contract it, then I don’t think I would have hesitated to get the shot. Those two conditions were never met to my satisfaction.

This “pandemic” has been a great tool for fomenting factions, divide and conquer is in full force...at least the divide part. You might believe that was always part of a plan or you might think that is totally out of the realm of possibility. Which ever side you come down on with respect to the motivation behind these events, you surely cannot deny that it has divided the world’s population into two camps...Even in our own little world here.
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Believe what you will, but to say the vaccine has been of little help, then please pass to me what you're smoking so I too can live in cloud cuckoo land just like you.

Tim.
 
TitanTim said:
Old-Duckman said:
Human nature.

No one wants to admit that they might have been wrong about...whatever. And, men are worse admitting such than women and I think most of us here are men.

If we look at the developing facts it is becoming plainly apparent that the house of cards is falling and those who built that house, and even more so those who live in it, are desperately trying to prove that they were right all along. They try hardest to prove that to themselves.

The vaccines have proven themselves to be of little help and some evidence exists that they have been detrimental. This article spells it out rather well and is brief. Read it if you care to. https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/12/vasko-kohlmayer/alert-collapsing-of-the-vaccine-narrative/ its titled “Collapsing of the Vaccine Narrative”

If I honestly believed that the vaccine was safe and effective (as we were told endlessly in the beginning...not so much of late). And if I PERSONALLY feared the effects that I might suffer should I contract it, then I don’t think I would have hesitated to get the shot. Those two conditions were never met to my satisfaction.

This “pandemic” has been a great tool for fomenting factions, divide and conquer is in full force...at least the divide part. You might believe that was always part of a plan or you might think that is totally out of the realm of possibility. Which ever side you come down on with respect to the motivation behind these events, you surely cannot deny that it has divided the world’s population into two camps...Even in our own little world here.
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Believe what you will, but to say the vaccine has been of little help, then please pass to me what you're smoking so I too can live in cloud cuckoo land just like you.

Tim.
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If you read the article that I linked to, the writer makes a pretty good case for the relative ineffectiveness of the vaccine program in general. He makes no assertion that it did or does not lessen the severity of symptoms. But then again, is that even possible to prove? Someone can not have had the illness and after recovering say that it would have been worse had they not had the vaccine. There is no way of knowing that either one way or the other.
 
Old-Duckman said:
If you read the article that I linked to, the writer makes a pretty good case for the relative ineffectiveness of the vaccine program in general. He makes no assertion that it did or does not lessen the severity of symptoms. But then again, is that even possible to prove? Someone can not have had the illness and after recovering say that it would have been worse had they not had the vaccine. There is no way of knowing that either one way or the other.
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I don't know where to start with that complete pile of crap article... "The stark truth is that the vaccines do not provide reliable protection against infection, severe Covid or death."... yes there absolutely is evidence that the vaccine helps people avoid severe illness and death, there is plenty of science out there if you care to look further than that bonkers website you quoted.

As for there being no way of knowing whether the vaccine works based on people not being able to both have it and not have it, it's called statistics.

If you are going to try and argue, please use better sources than some lunatic on a ridiculous website.
 
Old-Duckman said:
You quote your lunatics, I’ll quote mine.
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Your guy backed up exactly none of any of his points with any kind of science... If you want to post your conspiracy theories you are going to have to back them up somehow.
 
ronk said:
However Implying someone is a Nazi is not!
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Yes,Ron,
Because Wullie said it,so it's okay.

Don't you know by now Ron,
Wullie can say what he wants,and that's all right,
But God help the rest of us if we disagree with that.
(His usual response is Personal attacks,Insults,as others have experience of,and as others have said elsewhere,he puts his spin on it and tries to make out we are all in the wrong :headbang:

What a Fanny!!
 
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