Omnicron...dont fear the reaper...

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You just can’t help yourself can you?

I’m trying to help you here - now calm yourself down!
 
Flyingfifer said:
ronk said:
It is meant to be “unidirectional”

Your posts have gone well into the disruptive category.

John-e89 has made your options abundantly clear and I think this is probably your best option at this stage

Have they aye? By what metric? I dont say what you permit? Jog on
Again pot kettle in terms of calling others "disruptive"

This thread has gone AWOL because of your involvement and your inability to take someone else's opinion without resorting to your worn out same old same old I'm better than anyone else demeanor mocking. Ive thanked you in this thread for your well wishes on recovering from omnicron which I meant, also in the hope that further discussions can be had without the petty bullshit, clearly not hence my current frustration.

If you want to call me princess have the balls to do it to my face, we can go to PM and arrange a meeting which I'm more than willing to make so you can do just that. I'll await your preferred time date and place.
 
Scubaregs said:
Old-Duckman said:
Hmm, what is selfish about not subjecting myself to an experimental gene therapy that does not stop transmission, or ensure that the vaccinated will not catch the virus? Please educate me.

Perhaps I'm selfish because I prefer to stay as God created me with an immune system that has worked just fine my entire 66 years...If that is selfish , I stand guilty as charged!

Oh well, off to work to finish moving my office...Later then.


You are beyond any teachers ability to educate.

Your parents created you, no imaginary friend was involved.

Your response is a cop out, a dodge, a diversion...in other words, no answer at all. I'm surprised that you even replied. I certainly am open to being educated and changing my mind if sufficient evidence is given to dispute that which I have already garnered from my own investigation into this whole situation. I actually look at both sides and form an opinion from there, sadly I think that approach is relatively rare.
 
Flyingfifer said:
TitanTim said:
The Prime Minister mentioned at this evenings press briefing that over 90% of Covid hospital admissions are the unvaccinated and thus needlessly dying. There may be some reasons why some haven't been able to receive the vaccine whatever they are but there is no denying if these people had taken up the vaccine they wouldn't be where they are now and just maybe we wouldn't be seeing hospitals declaring major emergencies trying to cope with people who couldn't be arsed in accepting the vaccine. Maybe Johnson is wrong then?

Tim.

LMFAO :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Citation needed for that claim, all the official stats from the ONS and the government shows that to be utterly false.
BJ also said that they werent having parties and the ones they did have were "work meetings" :rofl:

You know that the "declaring major emergencies" is to do with staff shortages due to covid isolation and not overflowing hospitals right?

Couple of little inconvenient fact as well,
Hospital admission does not = death
There are people who CANNOT get the vaccine for health reasons.

Agree not everyone can have the vaccine due to maybe other health reasons BUT the vaccine and the booster are preventing hospital admissions which means people WHO REALLY need those hospital beds are being denied/delayed with their treatment when they needn't be all because peeps think they don't need the vaccine because they think they know better and cannot be certain to any degree whatsoever they might not end up in intensive care. So tables turned where do you think we would be now if we took the view, just let the virus run its course through the population and rely on survival of the fittest?

I'm not really bothered about Johnson, parties etc, I couldn't give a fig really.

Tim.
 
ronk said:
He bleats on and on about “as God created “ yet says he is ex military- I suspect jabs would have been mandatory in the US military?
They sure were and I got plenty of them. I joined when I was 17 years old and have learned much since then. I have not subjected myself to any vaccines since I was honorably discharged in 1977.

The fact of the matter is that what are currently being called vaccines are not your typical vaccine. The FDA changed their definition of vaccine when these shots were introduced. The manufacturers themselves have called them gene therapy. These are facts and not my opinion.

I have been offered vaccines for shingles and pneumonia from my doctor recently (along with the Covid "vaccine"), I have rejected them all and will refuse to take any and all for the remainder of the years that God grants me on this Earth.

I have waning trust for "Big Pharma" and recent events have solidified my stance in that regard.
 
There is more than enough evidence to dispute your views, you just choose to disbelieve it as it does not fit your views.

As to my answer being a cop out, my answer stated the truth, you cannot teach someone something they simply refuse to believe. No matter what evidence is put in front of you, you will not believe it as it simply does not suit your narrative. It is pointless trying to educate you because you are convinced a horse with a pimple on its head is a unicorn.
 
john-e89 said:
This thread has gone AWOL because of your involvement and your inability to take someone else's opinion without resorting to your worn out same old same old I'm better than anyone else demeanor mocking. Ive thanked you in this thread for your well wishes on recovering from omnicron which I meant, also in the hope that further discussions can be had without the petty bullshit, clearly not hence my current frustration.

If you want to call me princess have the balls to do it to my face, we can go to PM and arrange a meeting which I'm more than willing to make so you can do just that. I'll await your preferred time date and place.

Hardly, this thread went AWOL because you flipped out at me laughing at a ludicrous BJ quote with a pie in the sky figure :roll:

Lmfao you want a fight John is that what youre after? Get a fkin grip
 
Old-Duckman said:
The fact of the matter is that what are currently being called vaccines are not your typical vaccine. The FDA changed their definition of vaccine when these shots were introduced. The manufacturers themselves have called them gene therapy. These are facts and not my opinion.

Really? Looks like your facts are wrong.Screenshot 2022-01-04 at 21.27.56.png
 
Scubaregs said:
There is more than enough evidence to dispute your views, you just choose to disbelieve it as it does not fit your views.

As to my answer being a cop out, my answer stated the truth, you cannot teach someone something they simply refuse to believe. No matter what evidence is put in front of you, you will not believe it as it simply does not suit your narrative. It is pointless trying to educate you because you are convinced a horse with a pimple on its head is a unicorn.
That is a well reasoned response and I appreciate it even if I disagree with you assumptions and conclusions.

We surely have divergent views (as it appears I have with most forum members on this subject) but I would hope that you would agree that there is evidence for both views. I guess where ones beliefs end up depends on your faith in the source presenting the evidence. I have little if any faith in information that governments supply and big pharma (and big business in general) are not far behind on my faith meter.
 
Scubaregs said:
Really? Looks like your facts are wrong.
Screenshot 2022-01-04 at 21.27.56.png (363.66 KiB) Viewed 2 times
Looks like a Ferrero Rocher.
"With this Covid-19 you are really spoiling us, Ambassador" :D
 
Flyingfifer said:
john-e89 said:
This thread has gone AWOL because of your involvement and your inability to take someone else's opinion without resorting to your worn out same old same old I'm better than anyone else demeanor mocking. Ive thanked you in this thread for your well wishes on recovering from omnicron which I meant, also in the hope that further discussions can be had without the petty bullshit, clearly not hence my current frustration.

If you want to call me princess have the balls to do it to my face, we can go to PM and arrange a meeting which I'm more than willing to make so you can do just that. I'll await your preferred time date and place.

Hardly, this thread went AWOL because you flipped out at me laughing at a ludicrous BJ quote with a pie in the sky figure :roll:

Lmfao you want a fight John is that what youre after? Get a fkin grip

Ok fine, if you weren't mocking Tim, my mistake.

Shall I wear petticoats under my gown...??
 
Scubaregs said:
Old-Duckman said:
The fact of the matter is that what are currently being called vaccines are not your typical vaccine. The FDA changed their definition of vaccine when these shots were introduced. The manufacturers themselves have called them gene therapy. These are facts and not my opinion.

Really? Looks like your facts are wrong.Screenshot 2022-01-04 at 21.27.56.png
https://cqrcengage.com/causeaction/app/document/36532017

Once again it depends on where you get your information from.

This is copied from the above linked article:

The federal government and health-care experts have denied that claim. But the president of Bayer's Pharmaceuticals Division is on record describing the mRNA shots as "cell and gene therapy" and acknowledging public wariness of the technology.

Bayer executive Stefan Oelrich, LifeSiteNews reported, made the statement at the World Health Summit, which took place in Berlin Oct. 24-26, drawing 6,000 people from 120 countries.
 
TitanTim said:
Agree not everyone can have the vaccine due to maybe other health reasons BUT the vaccine and the booster are preventing hospital admissions which means people WHO REALLY need those hospital beds are being denied/delayed with their treatment when they needn't be all because peeps think they don't need the vaccine because they think they know better and cannot be certain to any degree whatsoever they might not end up in intensive care. So tables turned where do you think we would be now if we took the view, just let the virus run its course through the population and rely on survival of the fittest?

I'm not really bothered about Johnson, parties etc, I couldn't give a fig really.

Tim.

Indeed the vaccine is certainly saving the lives of those most vulnerable, predominantly the elderly and reducing their hospital admissions the figures for that are absolutely clear :thumbsup:

There is no current justification for delays based on unvaccinated patients though and to claim otherwise is simply wrong. The NHS have an issue caused by staff isolation and the numbers in hospital is not unmanageable. Currently its around 14126 across the whole of the UK according to the Gov figures (SAUCE) with just 883 currently on ventilation. Numbers that have been broadly constant since August of 2021 though hospitalisations have spiked since 25/12/21.
When they need to start putting people into the Nightingale hospital then I will readily concede that the numbers of patients is beyond capacity.

As in if we didn't vaccinate anyone? (not that I've ever advocated for that)


john-e89 said:
Shall I wear petticoats under my gown...??

Yes please :wub: :bonk:
 
Old-Duckman said:
ronk said:
He bleats on and on about “as God created “ yet says he is ex military- I suspect jabs would have been mandatory in the US military?
They sure were and I got plenty of them. I joined when I was 17 years old and have learned much since then. I have not subjected myself to any vaccines since I was honorably discharged in 1977.

The fact of the matter is that what are currently being called vaccines are not your typical vaccine. The FDA changed their definition of vaccine when these shots were introduced. The manufacturers themselves have called them gene therapy. These are facts and not my opinion.

I have been offered vaccines for shingles and pneumonia from my doctor recently (along with the Covid "vaccine"), I have rejected them all and will refuse to take any and all for the remainder of the years that God grants me on this Earth.

I have waning trust for "Big Pharma" and recent events have solidified my stance in that regard.

While its true that some of the vaccines are mRNA based, not all of them are, iirc Pfzer and Moderna are mRNA based but the others are more conventional vaccines :thumbsup:
 
This thread is amazing.

Since I last commented we have had someone threaten to offer someone out. Overly aggressive replies. Blind allegiance to Politicians, Drug Companies and Scientists who have lied consistency throughout the pandemic and food pic's spammed because (I am guessing) people don't agree with someone else's opinion.

Some of you buggers on here are 80 but going on 8 years old. Cheers guys- I have just had a right giggle. :rofl:
 
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