
mgrlane said:Wonder if the BBC will ever tell these chaps that even when vaccinated they can still catch and pass it on.
Probably a couple of weeks before there are more double vax'd cases of covid than there are vax free.
Smartbear said:If you catch it you’re much more likely to become seriously ill than a vaccinated person though.
You can make figures and graphs say exactly what you want though.mgrlane said:mgrlane said:Wonder if the BBC will ever tell these chaps that even when vaccinated they can still catch and pass it on.
Probably a couple of weeks before there are more double vax'd cases of covid than there are vax free.
I was wrong. I said a couple of weeks and it was less than one.
enuf z said:Let's face it, the best possible outcome would be if every single person in the country caught it asap
Smartbear said:So? That’s just because there’s a lot less of you, if you catch it you’re much more likely to become seriously ill than a vaccinated person though.
Rob
Not saying it is fiddled, just pointing out that, as time goes on the answers to both will increase positively, meaning that that the orange line on the graph will continue to move away rom the blue one. Tbh it's a logical outcome that didn't really need the expense of a survey.mgrlane said:enuf z said:Let's face it, the best possible outcome would be if every single person in the country caught it asap
I agree. I think it would be much better to get it now rather than winter flu season.
With regards to figures I agree but it's hard to fiddle them when it's two binary questions. Have you had a "vaccine" and are you infected.
TitanTim said:just unfortunaley it has a knock on affect for others which can be pretty much avoided.
Flyingfifer said:TitanTim said:just unfortunaley it has a knock on affect for others which can be pretty much avoided.
How? What will the "knock on affect" be?
TitanTim said:Flyingfifer said:TitanTim said:just unfortunaley it has a knock on affect for others which can be pretty much avoided.
How? What will the "knock on affect" be?
Simple, by everyone accepting the vaccine, it won't stop it spreading but those that catch it will most likely have far less symptoms resulting in hospilisation and death. The knock on affect is the unvaccinated.
Tim.
Flyingfifer said:TitanTim said:Flyingfifer said:How? What will the "knock on affect" be?
Simple, by everyone accepting the vaccine, it won't stop it spreading but those that catch it will most likely have far less symptoms resulting in hospilisation and death. The knock on affect is the unvaccinated.
Tim.
But an unvaccinated 20 something has a better chance of survival than a double jabbed 80 something.....
mgrlane said:enuf z said:Let's face it, the best possible outcome would be if every single person in the country caught it asap
I agree. I think it would be much better to get it now rather than winter flu season.
With regards to figures I agree but it's hard to fiddle them when it's two binary questions. Have you had a "vaccine" and are you infected.
This is a serious question, the long covid that you mention, can you only get this if you are unvaccinated or can you also get this if you are vaccinated?TitanTim said:Smartbear said:So? That’s just because there’s a lot less of you, if you catch it you’re much more likely to become seriously ill than a vaccinated person though.
Rob
Completely agree Rob and why I've never being able to get my head around those who deny the vaccine because they think they will be ok and fine if they unfortunately catch it, something you simply can't predict. Whilst being in a younger age bracket seems to help its no guarantee you won't become seriously ill or suffer from long covid. Its like playing russian roulette which ones health, still its their health, just unfortunaley it has a knock on affect for others which can be pretty much avoided.
If I was an unvaccinated person at this moment it time considering all restrictions being lifted tomorrow I would be quite worried and in many ways you're going to stay in a a kind of twilight world or just risk it and hope for the best. I certainly don't think your average Joe in the street will continue with the masking, social distancing, cleanliness etc after tomorrow, all that will simply go out the window next week.
Will be interesting to see what pans out over the next 2 months with positive cases shooting up and hospitilisations slowly creeping up albeight slowly.
Tim.