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ronk said:
mgrlane said:
Wonder if the BBC will ever tell these chaps that even when vaccinated they can still catch and pass it on.

Probably a couple of weeks before there are more double vax'd cases of covid than there are vax free.

I hesitate to ask but but I think you will have to explain the reasoning behind that (more vaccinated than non vaccinated)

The BBC and other media have all reported on the percentages of fully vaccinated people getting the bug, the Numbers Hospitalised and those unfortunately who have died.

It’s a numbers game Ron, if a million people have been double jabbed but only ten haven’t then the number of infections among the vaccinated will outnumber the unvaccinated numbers.
Rob
 
Two lines on that graph Ronk.

Top one is people who haven't had any jabs. The bottom one is people who have had at least one.

The top one looks to have peaked and is heading down. The bottom one is rising.

It shows that people like yourself are still catching and passing on covid- just like the people who haven't had a jab.

My prediction is at some point the two lines will cross over the next couple of weeks and there will be more people who have been jabbed that have covid than people who haven't been jabbed who have covid.

The top one will be heavily influenced by the kids being mass tested. As soon as the holidays happen it will fall heavily because we won't be testing them 3 times a week. The bottom one will keep going up as the vaccinated will continue to pass the delta around.

Equally, the numbers of the vaccinated will go up as people continue to get jabbed and still catch it.
 
Yep I’m double jabbed & I have caught COVID

So far as I know I never caught it up till now & I picked it up off a kid from school is my best guess as we were told on Thursday a child has tested positive & so I, as a close contact, had to isolate & take a PCR test. I got my confirmation text today so fortunately it’s only been immediate family I’ve seen & now they have had to PCR & isolate with me irrespective as we are a household.

Interestingly other staff have been reporting negative results but I would be amazed if I was the 3% who get false positive PCR results
 
Smartbear said:
It’s a numbers game Ron, if a million people have been double jabbed but only ten haven’t then the number of infections among the vaccinated will outnumber the unvaccinated numbers.
Rob

100% this.

Got to ask yourself how many more people are going to be getting vaccinated tho?

Apart from the 18-30's there doesn't look like there has been much of an uptake in the other age groups for a while. They have all flat lined really.

I know you guys think they are 100% safe but with more and more reports of severe side effects I would imagine that less are probably getting their second. It would be good to see the numbers on uptake of the second jab.

It's probably why the government are rolling out the threats of "passports for the pub" in the papers this weekend and making rules for travelers where if they are jabbed they don't have to stay in their houses for 10 days afterwards etc.

It's just a waiting game really for the unvaccinated- just have to give it the summer of you old boys picking it up and bringing it back for them to then realise these are silly decisions.
 

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PointedMarlin said:
Yep I’m double jabbed & I have caught COVID

So far as I know I never caught it up till now & I picked it up off a kid from school is my best guess as we were told on Thursday a child has tested positive & so I, as a close contact, had to isolate & take a PCR test. I got my confirmation text today so fortunately it’s only been immediate family I’ve seen & now they have had to PCR & isolate with me irrespective as we are a household.

Interestingly other staff have been reporting negative results but I would be amazed if I was the 3% who get false positive PCR results

I hope it's easy sailing for you.

My partners brother is halfway through isolation- his house mate has got it but her brother has had two tests now and hasn't had a positive.

Housemate is not showing any symptoms other than a cold. It's a strange old thing.
 
Am I missing something, I thought the point of the vaccine is to reduce the symptoms so "A" you're less likely to become seriously ill and "B" as a consequence less likely ending up in hospital which I thought was the real goal, so if everyone is vaccinated but still freely passing the virus around it doesn't matter so much because you might be unwell but far less serious than if you remained unvaccinated. The but is those who haven't received the vaccine and the unknown regarding variants.

Tim.
 
TitanTim said:
Am I missing something, I thought the point of the vaccine is to reduce the symptoms so "A" you're less likely to become seriously ill and "B" as a consequence less likely ending up in hospital which I thought was the real goal, so if everyone is vaccinated but still freely passing the virus around it doesn't matter so much because you might be unwell but far less serious than if you remained unvaccinated. The but is those who haven't received the vaccine and the unknown regarding variants.


Tim.

That’s my understanding as well.

But hey - we are being suckered into another pointless discussion post!
 
ronk said:
Ole gits rule said:
. . . used his common sense as he has elderly grandparents so had the jabs.

That’s the problem, it’s not that common!
Just wish more of them were the same as yours :thumbsup:

My dad had it before he passed away and we had another elderly relative pass away with Covid so he knows its a major risk to other elderly members of the family so he chose to have the jab.

The girls were all for doing it anyway so the whole family has been done :thumbsup:
 
ronk said:
john-e89 said:
ronk said:
It’s only because millions in society have gone and had their jabs that some restrictions are being relaxed at this time.

Other than being hunkered down in their own little worlds the folk like FF et al have done bog all to help.

I have to say I’d be scared to death if there was another war Ronk…the same spirit as before twice just wouldn’t be there I don’t think.

Not many trans non identifying whatever the hell they are crackpots in ‘14 and ‘39 either….can you imagine…. :cry:


There would also be some bobble hatted juvenile reporter spouting cr4p on you tube Facebook social media telling them how it’s an individuals own choice if he should fight and giving stats!

Don’t forget the fart arse little bum fluff goatee beard adorning their narrow chin also Ronk… 8)
 
You know in all this discussion and stat dragging bore fest over the last year and more it boils down to this as far as I’m concerned: Chris Whitty, Patrick Vallance, JVT and others I haven’t taken names down but have listened to on radio etc, know 99% more than anyone on here, they are the people I listen too and make my judgements from, nothing to do with government, just these guys. No one knows more than them, and personally I’ll do what they say over anyone or anything anyone says on here, simple.
 
john-e89 said:
You know in all this discussion and stat dragging bore fest over the last year and more it boils down to this as far as I’m concerned: Chris Whitty, Patrick Vallance, JVT and others I haven’t taken names down but have listened to on radio etc, know 99% more than anyone on here, they are the people I listen too and make my judgements from, nothing to do with government, just these guys. No one knows more than them, and personally I’ll do what they say over anyone or anything anyone says on here, simple.

There has been some cr4p spouted that’s for certain!
Full of opinion but still hiding away from the world - waiting for the majority of us to be vaccinated so they feel safe. :thumbsdown:
 
ronk said:
There has been some cr4p spouted that’s for certain!
Full of opinion but still hiding away from the world - waiting for the majority of us to be vaccinated so they feel safe. :thumbsdown:

50% of people have been vaccinated since March, we are pushing 86.9% at the moment SAUCE... why dont they feel safe yet?

Really is fascinating how the human psyche works, just because a man in a suite is put on tv and you are told that he is an expert and implicitly always correct means that it is so, that didn't really work out all that well for the yanks Fauci did it? :roll:
For example the WHO has been saying for months and months that lockdowns are not the way to go yet thats what we have been doing, are our dudes in suits better than their dudes in suites? I mean our dudes in suites have been caught ignoring their own rules but their dudes in suites have swung wildly from X is right to X is wrong do Y thats right to neither Y or X are right and we should do Z
 
Folk on a forum know diddly squat about it unless they’re in the field, no matter what spin they put on it. Strange the human psyche in some cannot grasp that.
 
Someone said to me months and months ago if there was no lockdown, no tv, radio or newspaper broadcasts about covid, would we really think that this was a worldwide pandemic or think it was as bad as it is being made out?
You wouldnt know unless you actually had it.
I am not putting the virus down at all as I know it has been deadly towards certain groups.
 
Flyingfifer said:
ronk said:
There has been some cr4p spouted that’s for certain!
Full of opinion but still hiding away from the world - waiting for the majority of us to be vaccinated so they feel safe. :thumbsdown:

50% of people have been vaccinated since March, we are pushing 86.9% at the moment SAUCE... why dont they feel safe yet?

Really is fascinating how the human psyche works, just because a man in a suite is put on tv and you are told that he is an expert and implicitly always correct means that it is so, that didn't really work out all that well for the yanks Fauci did it? :roll:
For example the WHO has been saying for months and months that lockdowns are not the way to go yet thats what we have been doing, are our dudes in suits better than their dudes in suites? I mean our dudes in suites have been caught ignoring their own rules but their dudes in suites have swung wildly from X is right to X is wrong do Y thats right to neither Y or X are right and we should do Z
Flyingfifer said:
ronk said:
There has been some cr4p spouted that’s for certain!
Full of opinion but still hiding away from the world - waiting for the majority of us to be vaccinated so they feel safe. :thumbsdown:

50% of people have been vaccinated since March, we are pushing 86.9% at the moment SAUCE... why dont they feel safe yet?

Really is fascinating how the human psyche works, just because a man in a suite is put on tv and you are told that he is an expert and implicitly always correct means that it is so, that didn't really work out all that well for the yanks Fauci did it? :roll:
For example the WHO has been saying for months and months that lockdowns are not the way to go yet thats what we have been doing, are our dudes in suits better than their dudes in suites? I mean our dudes in suites have been caught ignoring their own rules but their dudes in suites have swung wildly from X is right to X is wrong do Y thats right to neither Y or X are right and we should do Z


Come on the Professor - spell it out!
Ok, you don’t seem to have any faith in the current attempts to control the situation - What would YOU do?

Keep it simple - no quote or links - YOUR idea,

A simple explanation will do - then people might realise just how stupid we’ve all been.
 
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