New toy

[BadgerDog]

My screen colour inverts

Thats what I want, but it doesnt work that way. Not sure if something is broken or what. I seem to have quite a few STRANGE gremlins in my car. At least the engine purrs nicely...

 

[BadgerDog]

[ref]Jollyjoiner[/ref], my question is how well is the screen visible in the bright sun with the top down? My previous car was an NC Miata. I fitted a Pioneer Android Auto head unit to it and LOVED all the features it added (in fairness it had no screen at all before this so it was a huge leap for me). However, the slightest sun on that screen rendered it unreadable! The OEM screen on our Zeds is INCREDIBLE in this regard (I think its color eInk?) and I dont want to give that up, but otherwise would love to have google maps on the screen, etc.

 

[AnubisZed]

[ref]Jollyjoiner[/ref], my question is how well is the screen visible in the bright sun with the top down? My previous car was an NC Miata. I fitted a Pioneer Android Auto head unit to it and LOVED all the features it added (in fairness it had no screen at all before this so it was a huge leap for me). However, the slightest sun on that screen rendered it unreadable! The OEM screen on our Zeds is INCREDIBLE in this regard (I think its color eInk?) and I dont want to give that up, but otherwise would love to have google maps on the screen, etc.

I've had both The biggest problem with the Android screen was if the sun was out, roof down and you have a passenger, as anything they are wearing is reflected in the screen. Not too bad but noticable, but as I drive mine on my own most of the time this wasn't really a problem. Also if you have the cream/white seats it could be a bit of a problem.

As for wanting Google maps on an original iDrive screen then go with an MMI box that'll give you Apple CarPlay/Android Auto (depending on your phone) then you'll have live access to the apps on your phone......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY-pSPUz0IU&t=

 

[Nictrix]

[ref]Jollyjoiner[/ref], my question is how well is the screen visible in the bright sun with the top down? My previous car was an NC Miata. I fitted a Pioneer Android Auto head unit to it and LOVED all the features it added (in fairness it had no screen at all before this so it was a huge leap for me). However, the slightest sun on that screen rendered it unreadable! The OEM screen on our Zeds is INCREDIBLE in this regard (I think its color eInk?) and I dont want to give that up, but otherwise would love to have google maps on the screen, etc.

I've had both The biggest problem with the Android screen was if the sun was out, roof down and you have a passenger, as anything they are wearing is reflected in the screen. Not too bad but noticable, but as I drive mine on my own most of the time this wasn't really a problem. Also if you have the cream/white seats it could be a bit of a problem.

As for wanting Google maps on an original iDrive screen then go with an MMI box that'll give you Apple CarPlay/Android Auto (depending on your phone) then you'll have live access to the apps on your phone......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY-pSPUz0IU&t=

Could you put a satin/matt screensaver over the screen to combat the glare?

 

[Jollyjoiner]

I've only been out in mine once with roof down with the new screen and I was alone and all I can say the screen looked fine to me but then it wasn't a bright sunny day.

 

[john-e89]

I've only been out in mine once with roof down with the new screen and I was alone and all I can say the screen looked fine to me but then it wasn't a bright sunny day.

Get Lindesay to wear a sequinned disco bra Nige....everyone’s a winner then....

 

[Stevo1987]

I've only been out in mine once with roof down with the new screen and I was alone and all I can say the screen looked fine to me but then it wasn't a bright sunny day.

Get Lindesay to wear a sequinned disco bra Nige....everyone’s a winner then....

Maybe he can borrow your one one John.

 

[Jollyjoiner]

I've only been out in mine once with roof down with the new screen and I was alone and all I can say the screen looked fine to me but then it wasn't a bright sunny day.

Get Lindesay to wear a sequinned disco bra Nige....everyone’s a winner then....

Maybe he can borrow your one one John.

 

[BadgerDog]

[ref]Jollyjoiner[/ref], my question is how well is the screen visible in the bright sun with the top down? My previous car was an NC Miata. I fitted a Pioneer Android Auto head unit to it and LOVED all the features it added (in fairness it had no screen at all before this so it was a huge leap for me). However, the slightest sun on that screen rendered it unreadable! The OEM screen on our Zeds is INCREDIBLE in this regard (I think its color eInk?) and I dont want to give that up, but otherwise would love to have google maps on the screen, etc.

I've had both The biggest problem with the Android screen was if the sun was out, roof down and you have a passenger, as anything they are wearing is reflected in the screen. Not too bad but noticable, but as I drive mine on my own most of the time this wasn't really a problem. Also if you have the cream/white seats it could be a bit of a problem.

As for wanting Google maps on an original iDrive screen then go with an MMI box that'll give you Apple CarPlay/Android Auto (depending on your phone) then you'll have live access to the apps on your phone......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY-pSPUz0IU&t=

Interesting, I will give that a look. Thank you. Is this one thats going to work / not work depending on which version we have? Or is is more of a "Any E89 can run this" type thing? I'll do my own research ist just easy to miss that sort of subtly... one thing I have learned is that it seems like theres a million different combinations of equip on these cars.

For example, every picture Ive ever seen with comparisons to CIC vs NBT etc tells me I have CIC (it looks the same), however THEIR site suggests my 2016 Z4 should have NBT... guess I could pull the head unit and look at the LVDS connectors, but what a drag to have to do that.

Lastly, any knowledge about this unit, or how it compares? (https://motivesupplies.nl/product/motivesupplies-mmi-for-bmw/)
Theres an obvious price difference and I'm just wondering why.

 

[Silverstar]

For example, every picture Ive ever seen with comparisons to CIC vs NBT etc tells me I have CIC (it looks the same), however THEIR site suggests my 2016 Z4 should have NBT... guess I could pull the head unit and look at the LVDS connectors, but what a drag to have to do that.

NBT never came on the E89 Z4 no matter what year the car is. If it did it would possible to upgrade the earlier cars to NBT but from my research before I went the MMI route is that this isn't possible.

 

[BadgerDog]

For example, every picture Ive ever seen with comparisons to CIC vs NBT etc tells me I have CIC (it looks the same), however THEIR site suggests my 2016 Z4 should have NBT... guess I could pull the head unit and look at the LVDS connectors, but what a drag to have to do that.

NBT never came on the E89 Z4 no matter what year the car is. If it did it would possible to upgrade the earlier cars to NBT but from my research before I went the MMI route is that this isn't possible.

If you look at the graphic (when you scroll down) at https://motivesupplies.nl/product/motivesupplies-mmi-for-bmw/ it leads me to believe it is at least POSSIBLE that while it still had the CIC system the post facelift model had the 6 pin NBT LVDS connector. It at least casts enough doubt I think I have to pull the head unit before I'd consider buying the box... Of course thats the only place I can find anything suggesting such a thing. But it would ALSO fit with the info on the first MMI box's website (that Anubis posted, claiming my car needs the NBT version).

 

[mcbutler]

Sent the OP's supplier an email for a price, reply received and posted below.
My car is CiC with iDrive already fitted and quote is for that system.
Chance of a reduction for a group buy chaps!!

Total in GBP is £617 delivered for single unit or £492.28 if we can get 5 buyers....
However with the brexit bollox it would be prudent to expect a nice fat customs charge as well!!!!

______________________________________________

Hello, Mr Mark



Thanks for your kind iqnuiry, this is Milo Liu from ACARNAVI.



The price for your Z4 E89 Android screen as following:

Unit price: US$765, wholesale or group price is US$690 ( MOQ： 5 pcs）

Shipping cost US$100

Warranty: 1 year

Payment； Paypal or Bank transfer

Looking forward to your reply.

 

[YDB]

I've only been out in mine once with roof down with the new screen and I was alone and all I can say the screen looked fine to me but then it wasn't a bright sunny day.

You're in the UK. How many sunny days are you expecting to get?

 

[Silverstar]

For example, every picture Ive ever seen with comparisons to CIC vs NBT etc tells me I have CIC (it looks the same), however THEIR site suggests my 2016 Z4 should have NBT... guess I could pull the head unit and look at the LVDS connectors, but what a drag to have to do that.

NBT never came on the E89 Z4 no matter what year the car is. If it did it would possible to upgrade the earlier cars to NBT but from my research before I went the MMI route is that this isn't possible.

If you look at the graphic (when you scroll down) at https://motivesupplies.nl/product/motivesupplies-mmi-for-bmw/ it leads me to believe it is at least POSSIBLE that while it still had the CIC system the post facelift model had the 6 pin NBT LVDS connector. It at least casts enough doubt I think I have to pull the head unit before I'd consider buying the box... Of course thats the only place I can find anything suggesting such a thing. But it would ALSO fit with the info on the first MMI box's website (that Anubis posted, claiming my car needs the NBT version).

Check here: https://www.bimmer-tech.net/blog/item/54-bmw-cic-nbt-nbtevo

You will see the E89 Z4 is only listed under CIC and not under NBT.

 

[Silverstar]

Total in GBP is £617 delivered for single unit or £492.28 if we can get 5 buyers....
However with the brexit bollox it would be prudent to expect a nice fat customs charge as well!!!!

Looks like that supplier is in Shenzhen, China so you can expect custom costs i.e. duty VAT and clearance charges no matter what the Brexit situation. Account around £150 to 200 on top.

 

[AnubisZed]

NBT never came on the E89 Z4 no matter what year the car is. If it did it would possible to upgrade the earlier cars to NBT but from my research before I went the MMI route is that this isn't possible.

If you look at the graphic (when you scroll down) at https://motivesupplies.nl/product/motivesupplies-mmi-for-bmw/ it leads me to believe it is at least POSSIBLE that while it still had the CIC system the post facelift model had the 6 pin NBT LVDS connector. It at least casts enough doubt I think I have to pull the head unit before I'd consider buying the box... Of course thats the only place I can find anything suggesting such a thing. But it would ALSO fit with the info on the first MMI box's website (that Anubis posted, claiming my car needs the NBT version).

Check here: https://www.bimmer-tech.net/blog/item/54-bmw-cic-nbt-nbtevo

You will see the E89 Z4 is only listed under CIC and not under NBT.

Absoluteley 100% ALL E89's are on CIC with the 4 pin LVDS cable/plug absolutely guaranteed.
I can safely say this because
1) My screen is from a 2015 car
2) I've fitted one of these to a 2016 car

Hope that clarifies the situation

 

[Jollyjoiner]

I've only been out in mine once with roof down with the new screen and I was alone and all I can say the screen looked fine to me but then it wasn't a bright sunny day.

You're in the UK. How many sunny days are you expecting to get?

I'm thinking maybe two or three so I'm sure I'll get out in one of them

 

[mcbutler]

Total in GBP is £617 delivered for single unit or £492.28 if we can get 5 buyers....
However with the brexit bollox it would be prudent to expect a nice fat customs charge as well!!!!

Looks like that supplier is in Shenzhen, China so you can expect custom costs i.e. duty VAT and clearance charges no matter what the Brexit situation. Account around £150 to 200 on top.

I have been buying from China for resale etc for over ten years, never had any problems with duty at all until this year.......

 

[Silverstar]

Total in GBP is £617 delivered for single unit or £492.28 if we can get 5 buyers....
However with the brexit bollox it would be prudent to expect a nice fat customs charge as well!!!!

Looks like that supplier is in Shenzhen, China so you can expect custom costs i.e. duty VAT and clearance charges no matter what the Brexit situation. Account around £150 to 200 on top.

I have been buying from China for resale etc for over ten years, never had any problems with duty at all until this year.......

But you still had to go through customs clearance pay VAT and clearance charges even if duty might be zero rated right? I too have been a trade buyer from China for a long time both before when I was in the UK and now in Spain and in both countries I have had to pay duties VAT and clearance charges, although usually duties are only around 2 to 3%

 

[BadgerDog]

You will see the E89 Z4 is only listed under CIC and not under NBT.

Oh Im not saying I think its actually NBT... but it is possible it could have the newer connector. An iterative change on CIC. I just want to verify before buying anything thats all.