New Battery Problem Registering with Carly

[Pickster]

Got a new battery delivered this week from Tayna went for the Exide 096 AGM 70Ah as I know others on the forum have.
Fitted it today no issues old out new in in about 10 mins. only thing to do was reset clock.

I purchased the Carly full BMW version to register the battery and look at some bits of coding.
Connected to the car no issues had a little play cleared the fault history etc.

Got onto the battery registry section. Register same battery.
Read battery info, battery read ok.
Register same battery no joy !! engine on , engine off still get the same

Battery was not registered successfully
Please try again while the engine is running. If still does not work, please
turn off the engine and turn on your
ignition to stage 2 and try again.

Did it over and over again, no luck , disconnected and re connected and tried again no joy.
Am I missing something ??
Any help appreciated.
:headbang:

 

[Smartbear]

Got a new battery delivered this week from Tayna went for the Exide 096 AGM 70Ah as I know others on the forum have.
Fitted it today no issues old out new in in about 10 mins. only thing to do was reset clock.

I purchased the Carly full BMW version to register the battery and look at some bits of coding.
Connected to the car no issues had a little play cleared the fault history etc.

Got onto the battery registry section. Register same battery.
Read battery info, battery read ok.
Register same battery no joy !! engine on , engine off still get the same

Battery was not registered successfully
Please try again while the engine is running. If still does not work, please
turn off the engine and turn on your
ignition to stage 2 and try again.

Did it over and over again, no luck , disconnected and re connected and tried again no joy.
Am I missing something ??
Any help appreciated.
:headbang:

I take it you purchased the Carly obd adapter to go with it? Others have discovered full functionality missing with generic adapters.
Rob

 

[Pickster]

Hi Rob, Yeah I have the Carly Gen 2 adaptor

 

[RobbiZ4]

I take it you purchased the Carly obd adapter to go with it? Others have discovered full functionality missing with generic adapters.

Hi Rob,
from my understanding, Carly doesn't work at all with any generic adapter. Is there any other experience around?

 

[RobbiZ4]

[...]Got onto the battery registry section. Register same battery.
Read battery info, battery read ok.
Register same battery no joy !! engine on , engine off still get the same

Battery was not registered successfully
Please try again while the engine is running. If still does not work, please
turn off the engine and turn on your
ignition to stage 2 and try again.

Did it over and over again, no luck , disconnected and re connected and tried again no joy.
Am I missing something ??
Any help appreciated.
:headbang:

Did it several times in between with Carly and the elder, white 2nd generation OBD adapter. Didn't try it up to now with the black universal adapter, I own as well.

From my understanding (and experience), an active ignition is required, not a running motor. Maybe Carly documentation is stating sth. different.

- read the current battery info => that will display a couple of hours the battery stayed in different charging levels
- activate the ignition
- register the new battery, in your case one with the same capacity
- re-read the battery info => the counter list will be emptied, all charging levels will display 0 (zero) hours.

That's all.


Can you provide a hardcopy of your counters?

 

[Pickster]

[...]Got onto the battery registry section. Register same battery.
Read battery info, battery read ok.
Register same battery no joy !! engine on , engine off still get the same

Battery was not registered successfully
Please try again while the engine is running. If still does not work, please
turn off the engine and turn on your
ignition to stage 2 and try again.

Did it over and over again, no luck , disconnected and re connected and tried again no joy.
Am I missing something ??
Any help appreciated.
:headbang:

Did it several times in between with Carly and the elder, white 2nd generation OBD adapter. Didn't try it up to now with the black universal adapter, I own as well.

From my understanding (and experience), an active ignition is required, not a running motor. Maybe Carly documentation is stating sth. different.

- read the current battery info => that will display a couple of hours the battery stayed in different charging levels
- activate the ignition
- register the new battery, in your case one with the same capacity
- re-read the battery info => the counter list will be emptied, all charging levels will display 0 (zero) hours.

That's all.

Before:
Screenshot_20210515-130055.jpg

After:
Screenshot_20210515-130155.jpg

Can you provide a hardcopy of your counters?

Hi Robbie,
Tried again read battery with ignition off , turned ignition on (No engine running) registered battery and it worked. re read battery and counters are now at zero with current mileage as below. thanks for your help.

 

[RobbiZ4]

Perfect!
My first attempts didn't work either, cause I haven't had activated the ignition. So this step is important.

 

[RobbiZ4]

Interesting, that you'll get displayed the unit "kilometers". I assume, it should be "miles" and is a bug of the software, isn't it?

 

[Pickster]

Yeah think it was the read with ignition off then ignition on to register that made the difference for some reason.
And not sure why the reading is KM but all sorted now cheers. :driving:

 

[CutterBCB]

Those steps work for me as well! The Carly doesn't say that in the instructions.

 

[Sgr74]

I’m having issues as well. My readings are always the same. I can’t get the bottom numbers to zero no matter what I do. Should I disconnect and reconnect the battery and start again?

 

[RobbiZ4]

The ignition has to be switched on without starting the motor. Then it works as well with Carly.

 

[Sgr74]

The ignition has to be switched on without starting the motor. Then it works as well with Carly.

Nope. Tried it. On, off, new battery, same battery. It’s like it still thinks it’s the old battery and isn’t resetting.

 

[RobbiZ4]

it still thinks it’s the old battery and isn’t resetting.

There is no battery recognition in the car.
Registering means, resetting/deleting collected data from the IBS sensor in the DME control unit.


Reading battery data with Carly
Changing battery size at first, if sth changed in capacity
Ignition on
Resetting/Registering same type
Igniton of
Reading battery data with Carly

Correct car and production date selected?

The IBS sensor is placed on the minus terminal of the battery.

 

[road warrior]

If the spec is the same there is no need to register. Only if you need to tell the system your needing different charging requirements such as a bigger or smaller capacity.

 

[RobbiZ4]

Well, interestig myth.

 

[B21]

If the spec is the same there is no need to register. Only if you need to tell the system your needing different charging requirements such as a bigger or smaller capacity.

Well you're incorrect..

On E89s everytime the battery is changed the change needs to be registered to allow the DME to work out best to manage that battery..

Additionally if you change the capacity of the battery you need to code it..that is allow the DME know that the capacity and maybe type has changed.

 

[DonDon]

If the spec is the same there is no need to register. Only if you need to tell the system your needing different charging requirements such as a bigger or smaller capacity.

If you don't code or register the new battery as appropriate, it will still work, but you won't get the best life and performance out of it.

 

[road warrior]

Ok, prove that statement please, I mean PROVIDE DOCUMENTED PROOF. I say again, if the spec is the same, the battery is the same. This requirement is based on the ecu knowing what to charge and for how long. If its identical... what would you change aside from the date and serial number, and as most people will tell you is to simply put a line of zero's. Mainly because it's almost impossible to find a serial number on a battery and mostly because the ecu doesn't care what the serial number is.

 

[B21]

Ok, prove that statement please, I mean PROVIDE DOCUMENTED PROOF. I say again, if the spec is the same, the battery is the same. This requirement is based on the ecu knowing what to charge and for how long. If its identical... what would you change aside from the date and serial number, and as most people will tell you is to simply put a line of zero's. Mainly because it's almost impossible to find a serial number on a battery and mostly because the ecu doesn't care what the serial number is.

From TIS BMW's online service manual for E89s

section newTIS
Home / BMW E89 Z4 sDrive35is Roadster / Wiring Diagrams and Functional Description / Body / Voltage supply /
Intelligent battery sensor and battery


Notice! Register battery replacement
After installing a new battery, the service function 'Register battery replacement' should be run. The battery replacement has to be registered in order to tell the power management system that a new battery has been installed in the vehicle. If the battery replacement is not registered, the power management will not function properly, with the result that Check Control messages may be displayed and functions limited by individual electrical consumers being switched off or having their power consumption reduced, for example.

and..

Proper operation of all of these safety and convenience functions requires a battery that conforms with specifications and that is properly registered in vehicles with energy management systems (IBS, power module).

Vehicles with energy management systems (IBS, power module): Register battery exchange.

The vehicle electrical system is informed about the vehicle battery characteristic data, such as type, size, age and current power capacity. Therefore, there will always be only one work scope provided that is permitted by the current status of information.

When installing a new vehicle battery, the battery must be registered and thus must also be registered with the vehicle electrical system.

Diagnosis system:

Register battery exchange.

Service functions
Body
Voltage supply
Register battery exchange
When retrofitting, a more powerful battery may be used. Standard batteries may always be replaced by AGM batteries with the same specifications.

When installing a battery of a different size or a different battery type, this change in vehicle data must be programmed into the vehicle data in accordance with specifications.

Programming system:

Battery retrofitting


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