MC on PH Auction

It will as it's on Autotrader too:- https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202504101199430?sort=relevance&searchId=d4e1f56e-616f-489e-8930-e99b01f9c84d&make=BMW&model=Z4%20M&page=2&postcode=gu470za&rad
 
Quite a few Coupes didn't have heated seats. I looked at Tony's database and none of the first 8 listed had them!
 
bigwinn said:
How unusual is it to have an M with non heated seats?
Don't know. But how unusual is it to have a £32,000, 19 year old car with an S engine to have 3 services (ever). One of those was the 'running in service'. :o

AND.....an apparent selling point is that one of the previous owners was a professional racing driver, who also didn't get it serviced by the look of it!

Two word spring to my mind.....the second is OFF. Just in case....the first one is f**k

If you want that kind of money for a very low mileage nineteen year old anything, no matter how shiny, how rare, how pretty, it needs to be impeccable in every way. This is 2025, not 2021. It isn't a 'classic', not yet. TBH I don't think any Z4 will ever be a classic. But who knows? Maybe one day. Just not yet.
 
Pondrew said:
bigwinn said:
How unusual is it to have an M with non heated seats?
Don't know. But how unusual is it to have a £32,000, 19 year old car with an S engine to have 3 services (ever). One of those was the 'running in service'. :o

AND.....an apparent selling point is that one of the previous owners was a professional racing driver, who also didn't get it serviced by the look of it!

Two word spring to my mind.....the second is OFF. Just in case....the first one is f**k

If you want that kind of money for a very low mileage nineteen year old anything, no matter how shiny, how rare, how pretty, it needs to be impeccable in every way. This is 2025, not 2021. It isn't a 'classic', not yet. TBH I don't think any Z4 will ever be a classic. But who knows? Maybe one day. Just not yet.
By the time they become “classics” in 20 years time there won’t be any petrol to make them go, it will be illegal to drive them and we will all have been forced into EVs. I’ll of course will be dead by then so will be passed caring. :headbang:
 
Pondrew said:
bigwinn said:
How unusual is it to have an M with non heated seats?
Don't know. But how unusual is it to have a £32,000, 19 year old car with an S engine to have 3 services (ever). One of those was the 'running in service'. :o

AND.....an apparent selling point is that one of the previous owners was a professional racing driver, who also didn't get it serviced by the look of it!

Two word spring to my mind.....the second is OFF. Just in case....the first one is f**k

If you want that kind of money for a very low mileage nineteen year old anything, no matter how shiny, how rare, how pretty, it needs to be impeccable in every way. This is 2025, not 2021. It isn't a 'classic', not yet. TBH I don't think any Z4 will ever be a classic. But who knows? Maybe one day. Just not yet.

Eloquent as ever mr pond

:rofl:
 
I think you are all being a trifle hard on the car. It will be classic in that there will never be anything like it ever again. Whether it makes money - that’s another question of course. And of course we will be able to drive them in the future. Yes we will all probably drives EVs more and more but the classic car industry in the U.K. is too big for the government to say “no petrol from so and so date”. The car looks nice, low on goodies but mine has few (other than heated seats which I never use). But the lack of servicing makes it a firm no no. I worried that there was a time gap in mine between 2012-2016 (not mikes though) but was reassured that it then became a BMW AUC and after that its been impeccable. But nearly no services since build - no thanks.
 
Don't know. But how unusual is it to have a £32,000, 19 year old car with an S engine to have 3 services (ever). One of those was the 'running in service'. :o

Two word spring to my mind.....the second is OFF. Just in case....the first one is f**k

Not ideal on the servicing obviously, but less than 500 miles done since last service in 2011? Hardly worth writing it off for?
 
flimper said:
Not ideal on the servicing obviously, but less than 500 miles done since last service in 2011? Hardly worth writing it off for?

When the oil is that old it will not be offering much lubrication to the engine. It doesn't take much miles to cause damage.

I see he's changed the oil and filter himself prior to the sale. Why not a proper service and inspection?
 
If you can get it cheap enough and get rod bearings done asap may still be worth a punt for someone
 
Beerman said:
flimper said:
Not ideal on the servicing obviously, but less than 500 miles done since last service in 2011? Hardly worth writing it off for?

When the oil is that old it will not be offering much lubrication to the engine. It doesn't take much miles to cause damage.

I see he's changed the oil and filter himself prior to the sale. Why not a proper service and inspection?
Because he’s selling it :wink:
 
MikeyH said:
Beerman said:
flimper said:
Not ideal on the servicing obviously, but less than 500 miles done since last service in 2011? Hardly worth writing it off for?

When the oil is that old it will not be offering much lubrication to the engine. It doesn't take much miles to cause damage.

I see he's changed the oil and filter himself prior to the sale. Why not a proper service and inspection?
Because he’s selling it :wink:

When he wants top money for it the least I'd expect after such a huge gap in the service history is a proper service to be carried out.

I think it'll need a lot more than an oil change at this stage.
 
Just sounds like a typical "it's very low mileage and looks in good nick, so MUST be worth a fortune" advert to me.
As they say.....it only needs one person to want it bad enough, though. :)
 
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