Margaret Thatcher

I hear the thatcher family have opted for a traditional Muslim funeral, followed by a Jewish shiva


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Stuart Truman said:
powerontap said:
Question from a foreigner: Would GB be better or worse off today if she wouldn't of been PM back then?

It's hard to say accurately. She did things both great and dumb. See SARS post above and add in the wholesale sell off of social housing at far below the market rate that has left this country with a problem even today in both social and private housing.

On the plus side an inspirational leader who stuck to her guns and ignored the press, unlike the pr focused toads we have today.

Interestingly, on the normally very sensible radio 4 "Today" program yesterday, someone stated that GDP was better before she came to power. That wasn't challenged and I've not had a chance to validate it (I'm interested in whether it's true or not)

The mines were closing anyway, 400.000 miners had lost their jobs due to smallish and inefficient pits ending their useful life in the previous 20 years. Scargil was a big fat target and he made her reputation for her.

I think the road was inevitable but the casualties were her choice. Care in the Community was the one I really hated. So many lost souls standing around on motorway slip roads clutching a black bin bag holding their worldly goods with nowhere to go.

I could weep for them.

As an aside for our younger viewers,
there was no homelessness, no beggars, and almost full employment in 1978.
Jobs were ten a penny. I miss that.
 
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Personaly I am eternally grateful for the late Margaret Thatcher and her policies. One thing not one soul has mentioned that did more for unemployment and the business sector was The Enterprise Allowance Scheme wherby I, and others, was paid £40-00 a week to start business's and in turn this led to my employing others and really got things going for us youngsters who had ambition and aspiration which is seemingly & sadly so lacking today.

Yes times were hard and productivity was low, lacking investment and a general lacklustre attitude but MT wasn't responsible for the ne'er do wells who constantly were on strike and all the problems thus associated. She made mistakes, some bad ones but she did, I believe, what was best at the time and lets remember as per Einstein's quote "A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new.” At least she had the balls to try unlike the milksops we have now. What a pathetic bunch. R.I.P. Margaret Thatcher.
 
I don't understand why so many people want to close down an interesting discussion about one of the most difficult periods in our recent history. if a few people chat about the things they lost and others mention the gains they made it will surely lead to increased mutual understanding and a less polarised society. Which I think is probably a good thing.

EDIT- I also benefited from the enterprise allowance scheme. TBH it was good for some and a waste of money for others. The fact we needed it was unfortunate. I don't know it it is still available, I hope so. It was a positive experience for me.
 
I'm learning a lot from this discussion even though not actively involved. I've never been very good with politics. I believe she made some bad decisions but she was a strong woman.
 
Ojiako Ojiako said:
logged into today in the mistaken thought this forum talked about z4 - not the guardian or the times
silly me

It's called The Lounge and it's where things other than cars are talked about.
 
RubyBlueZ4MC said:
I'm learning a lot from this discussion even though not actively involved. I've never been very good with politics. I believe she made some bad decisions but she was a strong woman.

Exactly the same as me, this is why I made the thread tbh, learned a lot reading through some of the posts.
 
Some good respectful debate on here, unlike some of the Tosh I've been seeing on the news.

Like some of the members here, I can remember pre-Thatcherite Britain.

She took on a lot of people and she made some serious enemies.
I grew up in the south but now live and work around the Potteries (Stoke-on-Trent) where a lot of miners had to retrain after being made redundant.
She is not a popular woman around here.
She polarizes opinion absolutely.

She was a hero to the likes of me, born from nothing but wanting to achieve something.

I know I'd rather live in the post-Thatcherite world than anything Michael Foot and Neil Kinnock could have come up with!
 
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