Malaysian Airlines 777 down over Ukraine

Lightning87 said:
every evidence now point's at the septatist/rebels:

they say they don't have missles cappible of taking it down, but a month ago they annouced they taken over a army unit using the BUK.

a rebel commander annouced at 17:50 (dutch time) that they took down a transportplane from te Ukranian airforce. later this was deleted...

they are deleting all announcements about their armoury etc.

and how i fill in putin's words, it are the rebels but he blames the Ukrainian goverment.

This^^^^
 
Just heard on The Jeremy Vine show that an Australian family have lost their daughter in law and husband and also lost a son and Daughter in law on the other Malaysia Airlines flight
 
ric19 said:
Just heard on The Jeremy Vine show that an Australian family have lost their daughter in law and husband and also lost a son and Daughter in law on the other Malaysia Airlines flight

Oh god, how awful.

Is it just a coincidence they were both Malaysian Airlines planes?
Makes you wonder.
 
teamemmenracing said:
pvr said:
154 Dutch on board :cry:

Just read that in the news this morning ....... its an absolute disaster in Nederland.
All those por people and all their families ....... tragedy ..... :cry:


Sky News is now reporting that 173 Dutch were killed ....... :cry:
 
There's reports of an air traffic guy in kiev who was tweeting whilst the tower was being taken over by govmt military forces after apparently the jet was being escorted by ukrainian jets before it was downed.

Obviously - like most of this, could all be fake. In my experience if a passenger jet is being escorted, the airline and local air-traffic would be aware.


EDIT: link http://slavyangrad.wordpress.com/20...rport-ukraine-military-shot-down-boeing-mh17/
 
One thing you can be sure of - unfortunately we will never know what REALLY happened. Too much political capital at stake for that to happen.

What an awful tragedy though.
 
jimmybell said:
There's reports of an air traffic guy in kiev who was tweeting whilst the tower was being taken over by govmt military forces after apparently the jet was being escorted by ukrainian jets before it was downed.

Obviously - like most of this, could all be fake. In my experience if a passenger jet is being escorted, the airline and local air-traffic would be aware.


EDIT: link http://slavyangrad.wordpress.com/20...rport-ukraine-military-shot-down-boeing-mh17/


Sounds like BS. Planes would be spotted on the radar ( especialy by the russians) and that would be made public ( certainly by the russians but they didn't). That site looks more like an propaganda page, not a serious news source.
 
original guvnor said:
One thing you can be sure of - unfortunately we will never know what REALLY happened. Too much political capital at stake for that to happen.

What an awful tragedy though.

Very true. There has been quite a lot of chat about it and the blame will keep being laid at each other's door for a long time to come. Nobody wants to admit you've caused a horrendous scene such as this loss of life.

I heard that two NUFC supporters were among the passengers. It really makes you appreciate everything that little bit more.
 
I hope that everyone keeps a cool head about this. Can't see any gain for shooting down an airliner for either Russia or Ukraine. On the face of it, it looks like 'Collateral Damage'. There'll be several elements to this, not least as Angie pointed out, why was the 'plane in that location in the first place. Not that it's any justification for it being shot down of course, no doubt it was entitled to be where it was.

In any conflict scenario, combatants get hot headed and are on tenter hooks. Sadly, it's almost inevitable that these things happen. The only thing that can be hoped for is that the passengers and crew knew nothing about it.

R.I.P.
 
Indeed, there is no excuse for this plane to have been shot down. Possibly all aviation authorities need to get together and agree on where they can or cannot fly in times of conflict.

I've just watch the interview with Liam Sweeney's father and it's absolutely heart wrenching to watch and hear. I also can't believe that nobody told the him and his family that his Son was on that flight and instead he found out by reading the statement published by Newcastle United. It's shocking
 
The Russians denied shooting down Korean Air Lines Flight 007 in 1983, it wasn't until eight years after their government collapsed that they told the world "the rest of the story." Nothing will change.
 
Putin is such a Git, watching him on the news sitting there in the Kremlin giving his condolences and implying that because it happened in the Ukraine then its their fault, the guy is a complete prat. For once Prince Charles got it right.

Tim.
 
Grandson and his G/F flew Singapore Airlines on Tuesday that very route en route to NZ for undergraduate medical placement
Tracked their flight on Flightradar 24 and literally right over the "place"
Bl***y russions always there somewhere
Sooner they are brought to their knees financially the better
 
Clearly the anti-Russia rhetoric has been absorbed by the masses... Western media is heavily biased and often report utter crap as facts.
 
T2FFN said:
Clearly the anti-Russia rhetoric has been absorbed by the masses... Western media is heavily biased and often report utter crap as facts.

Anti Russia or not, Putin is playing games in a country that shouldn't be allowed to fall into his USSR vision. Its a just a shame his back door antics are not being met will a little more vigour.

Tim.
 
It is pretty outrageous that it is currently being accepted that the official investigators are being turned away by armed rebels and nobody is yet stamping their foot. Totally illegal.
 
-Tom- said:
It is pretty outrageous that is us currently being accepted that the official investigators are being turned away by armed revels and nobody is yet stamping their foot. Totally illegal.
I rest my case ............ russion puppets
 
Meanwhile people's corpses lie where they fell. It's outrageous that a proper international clear up hasn't been allowed to commence.
 
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