Look what the postman brought me
- Thread starter Marlon
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mr wilks said:Chris_D said:ben g said:Typical response when someone gets caught making an arse of themselves
''it was only a joke'' yeah ok Mr NASA aeronautical engineer king of all professions.
Not at all, merely commenting on the amount of opinionated and enthusiastic discussion raised and not admitting to any form of mistake whatsoever.
Ben g i feel like you've developed something of an indifference towards me and my posts?
Somewhat unfortunate and not a little bit childish and a bit unfriendly on your part in my opinion.
Apologies if i've rubbed you up the wrong way if that's the case and maybe you can reply here or pm me to dicuss further if you prefer.
I'm very appreciative of the comments, assistance and general friendliness i've experienced thus far from this forum and hope that continues. However, your negative comments and snitty ripostes serve to diminish and spoil that a little bit.
I see that you have been an active and contributing member here for a lot longer than i have and i respect that fact. However, if my posts annoy or offend you in some way i would prefer that you refrain from commenting on them or maybe ignoring them altogether if possible?
Wouldn't flap mate , i think ben must have flamed every contributing member at some point :wink:
:lol: Tbh I can't even remember what it was in the other thread that Chris got angered about. That's the only other time I think I've replied to a comment of yours, Chris?
You replied here with a jokey comment and I've replied with the same. So why is it OK for you but not for me?
Not quite sure what your issue is tbh. I gave perfectly reasonable advice regarding a decent tool to have in anyone's garage.
These were standard issue to the AA patrols for years and are a perfectly acceptable peice of kit . The only problem I found when using one on a very tight bolt is that they CAN slip especially if the bolt head is worn or the locking nut has a shallow grip ( Ford / Vauxhall) which is why I brought my own breaker bar to undo wheel bolts. The AA now issue a breaker bar.
In your case Marlon, your wheels have been off and refitted by yourself and Andy so you haven't got to worry about the bolts being over tight and having to swing off the bar applying excess force at the wrong angle, also the BMW locking nut is one of the best I've come across as the key fits deep inside the bolt head giving less chance of slipping.
So in summary, Personaly I DONT like the tool for daily use on multiple cars of differing wheel bolts but in your case I think you'll be ok with it
Oh and if anyone wants to Question my credibility on constructive contribution to this thread, I have worked for the AA for 10 years now and wheel changes are one of the most common breakdown, so at a VERY conservative estimate of say one wheel change a week ( it's more like 3 or 4, sometimes a day ) that puts me at 520 not allowing for annual leave,
And yes I've read the whole thread not just jumped in on the end.
Stuart
In your case Marlon, your wheels have been off and refitted by yourself and Andy so you haven't got to worry about the bolts being over tight and having to swing off the bar applying excess force at the wrong angle, also the BMW locking nut is one of the best I've come across as the key fits deep inside the bolt head giving less chance of slipping.
So in summary, Personaly I DONT like the tool for daily use on multiple cars of differing wheel bolts but in your case I think you'll be ok with it
Oh and if anyone wants to Question my credibility on constructive contribution to this thread, I have worked for the AA for 10 years now and wheel changes are one of the most common breakdown, so at a VERY conservative estimate of say one wheel change a week ( it's more like 3 or 4, sometimes a day ) that puts me at 520 not allowing for annual leave,
And yes I've read the whole thread not just jumped in on the end.
Stuart
Ducklakeview said:More over analysing, BUT also practical experience would see me telling you NOT to use one of those.
The problem is, the angle.. It means that as you apply force, as the angle is not 90 degrees, it tends to push the socket to one side, which has couple of effects. Firstly it is trying to "angle" the socket off the fastener (bolt) head which can lead to slippage or rounding of the head. Secondly, as alloys tend to have "recessed" bolts due to the thicker hub, there is a chance of contact with the wheel and damage to the finish.
Personally, I have always used a breaker bar with a plastic sheathed deep impact (oeerrr missus!) socket, as more of the torque is applied to the fastener with it being at 90 degrees, that is of course until my new impact wrench arrived, but that's another story.
Mike
If it was 90 degrees you would have to add an extension bar to enable clearance of the arches etc. Adding that extension bar introduces as many issues if not more than the angled bar coming straight off the socket.
Just tried it out on a few wheel nuts. Works a dream. As Stuart (and others) have pointed out, these wheels have been fitted recently using the same type of brace and the nuts are new because they came with my spacers. Swapping them with Mr Wilks I got a good feel for how much down force to use - I can see how easy it would be to over tighten, reckon I've mastered it 
buzyg said:A three page thread about an shiny, extending tool. Only on the Z4 forum.
Just to say though I think if you have to resort to long poles to free up a stubborn wheel nut the chances are the nut will be knackered, theyre not as strong as you think, probably why BMW fit 5 instead if 4 :?
Tim.
Chris_D said:
Hmm, go back through my history and you see a post about my X5 where they had over torqued the wheels on the last service so when I put the winter wheels on, the locking nut was impossible to remove - no matter what method used. It was a very expensive removal process ...