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For all those bemoaning the BBC, JC in reality gave them little choice, no employer can let one member of staff bully, intimidate and then assault another. For all those complainers, how would you feel if he had done that to your son, daughter, wife, or sibling
 
sars said:
For all those bemoaning the BBC, JC in reality gave them little choice, no employer can let one member of staff bully, intimidate and then assault another. For all those complainers, how would you feel if he had done that to your son, daughter, wife, or sibling
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Totally agree
 
Completely agree with Sars. Once the facts were confirmed, the BBC had little choice but to bin him. Exactly the same would have happened in any other corporate enterprise.

Personally I think it will be good for all. I hope:-

A. Jessa moves on to something different and doesn't simply poach his co presenters and set up on BSkyB or some such.
B. Top Gear continues and changes it's format back towards factual Top Gear.
 
sars said:
For all those bemoaning the BBC, JC in reality gave them little choice, no employer can let one member of staff bully, intimidate and then assault another. For all those complainers, how would you feel if he had done that to your son, daughter, wife, or sibling
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Absolutely right, well said :thumbsup:
 
sars said:
For all those bemoaning the BBC, JC in reality gave them little choice
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/1330499/Prescott-punches-a-protester.html

Just saying :roll:
 
buzyg said:
Completely agree with Sars. Once the facts were confirmed, the BBC had little choice but to bin him. Exactly the same would have happened in any other corporate enterprise.

Personally I think it will be good for all. I hope:-

A. Jessa moves on to something different and doesn't simply poach his co presenters and set up on BSkyB or some such.
B. Top Gear continues and changes it's format back towards factual Top Gear.
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I don't think he'll be able to set up another top gear on sky or wherever as they are heavily funded by advertising, and who's going to want him slating a car with the kind of audiences he can pull in then that very car pops up in the next commercial break.

Chris Evans said this morning he definitely would'nt do top gear next year. Might change his mind of course.
 
No question he had to go, there has probably been numerous instances of loutish behaviour that he's got away with.

Despite that I still respect the guy for his attitude in this PC world, no-one has to like or agree with his comments, and after all he does it for effect, if they become unbearable you reach for the remote.

I think the BBC will have a problem with a new Top Gear, like it or not, JC is synonymous with the show, his sidekicks to a lesser degree and they have at least diversified into other programmes.

I don't see how the BBC can re-brand Top Gear when you think of all the products associated with the name, so its going to be an interesting few weeks to see what happens.
 
Not sure what I think the future of TG is really... on the one hand I feel it may end up like Two and a Half Men, when they replaced Charlie Sheen with Ashton Kutcher, but on the other hand it's such a global brand that there is more incentive to somehow revive it... maybe Boris Johnson could do the job, if he doesn't run for PM?! :D
 
sp3ctre said:
sars said:
For all those bemoaning the BBC, JC in reality gave them little choice
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/1330499/Prescott-punches-a-protester.html

Just saying :roll:
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not really that similar, some knuckle dragger responding to an an egg being thrown, to JC using his position to intimidate....ah well okay :D
 
Chris Harris, Chris Evans and perhaps Suzie Perry for a rejuvenated Top Gear, I'd watch that
 
Listening to James then it sounds to me very much as if there are behind the scene reasons all 3 may leave. 'Package' sounded more like a cover all word that sounds like 'we're buddies', but means there's some company/contractual ties between them, perhaps preventing any individual leaving the show, setting up in competition, etc. etc.

I reckon the show will go on, re-launched next year and with a complete new line-up and format.
 
cj10jeeper said:
I reckon the show will go on, re-launched next year and with a complete new line-up and format.
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Keep up, I said that on page 4 :poke:

lux said:
Perfect opportunity to get rid of all three of them and modernise the show with fresh new presenters and a new programme format
My vote would be for Chris Evans to front it.
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bleh bullshit, its off screen, out of the office. This could easily of carried on with a public apology and a joint statement.

I hope they all leave and do something elsewhere, as much as i dislike Sky - they're probably best suited to continue the trio's antics.

Replacing the cast with Chris Carris, Chris Evans and whoever else is a lovely fantasy, but it's nothing to do with top gear, it'd be a new show entirely. 'Top Gear' is a show about 3 guys messing about with high end cars, not '3 decent presenters making car reviews' - yes, it could be that .. but it isnt, and the 1000 BBC worldwide clones of the show are also not that, they're based on the trio.

I don't think anyone (unless they had some huge ego) would be interested in being involved in a topgear replacement flop done by the BBC. Can you imagine the first scene of the new series, with the camera panning down to Chris Evans saying "We're Back!" .. i'd turn it off.

Yes Clarkson shouldn't have done it, but i cant help but think, like someone close to the show recently said.. the BBC just isn't geared up to handle decent talent.
 
jimmybell said:
bleh bullshit, its off screen, out of the office. This could easily of carried on with a public apology and a joint statement.

I hope they all leave and do something elsewhere, as much as i dislike Sky - they're probably best suited to continue the trio's antics.

Replacing the cast with Chris Carris, Chris Evans and whoever else is a lovely fantasy, but it's nothing to do with top gear, it'd be a new show entirely. 'Top Gear' is a show about 3 guys messing about with high end cars, not '3 decent presenters making car reviews' - yes, it could be that .. but it isnt, and the 1000 BBC worldwide clones of the show are also not that, they're based on the trio.

I don't think anyone (unless they had some huge ego) would be interested in being involved in a topgear replacement flop done by the BBC. Can you imagine the first scene of the new series, with the camera panning down to Chris Evans saying "We're Back!" .. i'd turn it off.

Yes Clarkson shouldn't have done it, but i cant help but think, like someone close to the show recently said.. the BBC just isn't geared up to handle decent talent.
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I say go with Chris Carris.
 
jimmybell said:
'Top Gear' is a show about 3 guys messing about with high end cars, not '3 decent presenters making car reviews' ...
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^This.

The BBC should drop Top Gear and create a different, car-focussed show, although the audience figures would be far lower - there aren't any car shows with the dedicated following and marketability of Top Gear (18 year waiting list for the studio tickets!). But I expect the BBC will try to rebrand it, they like to flog the proverbial dead horse, so I can see a second rate show being cobbled together. Top Gear Lite, anyone?

Of course, they could just show the US Top Gear for a few months before bringing out their new version...
 
jimmybell said:
bleh bullshit, its off screen, out of the office. This could easily of carried on with a public apology and a joint statement....

...Yes Clarkson shouldn't have done it, but i cant help but think, like someone close to the show recently said.. the BBC just isn't geared up to handle decent talent.
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I totally disagree with both of these statements.

If I assaulted someone in my workplace - and believe me, sometimes I really want to - I could expect to be summarily dismissed and probably have to do some time in a court-room. The nature of the Top Gear workplace is such that it is wherever they are filming, or staying between shoots, if it's not in the office. I wouldn't be able to get away with a public apology, and I'm sure the person I assaulted wouldn't be interested in that as a resolution. I'm not sure why different rules should apply to someone just because they are a celebrity. Which brings me on to...

Does being 'geared up to handle decent talent' mean discarding the general norms of society and the values of the organisation for someone with an ego that has eclipsed his common sense and decency ? Clarkson shouldn't have done it - there is not a single justifiable addition to that statement starting with 'but' unless the assaulted party hit him first. Which he didn't.
 
Well said Bing

if Oisin had retaliated and it became a scuffle then I would have said okay, final written warning to both and kept it quiet, but he didn't he just quitely took it and didn't even complain afterwards. It was JC who after days of trying to apologise for his actions reported the event to the BBC and at that point he knew he had gone to far this time.

The only person to blame here is JC and he knows it
 
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