is the z4 realli a female car?

[Woots]

I think ppl still think the coupe is a hairdressers car, just u losers cant hear them thru the metal lid
Still....ignorance is bliss :lol:

 

[Lucy]

people just think its not my car....daddys car apparently

Yep, I've had that one a few times!

 

[windnwaves]

Yep, told my mate i'm collecting z4 he came back with "obviously for Maria or you gotta job with Toni and Guy!! cheers mate :evil:

 

[mikedav]

This may not be popular but...

I suspect most people couldn't distinguish the coupe from a 1 series to be honest. The roadster's much more distinctive and more obviously "a sports car" to most peoples eyes.

That really doesn't make any sense whatsoever though, does it.

The ZC and ZR are identical, of course, but for the roof. So by your logic, yours looks like a 1 Series convertible to the casual observer.

Maybe if both cars are black. And it's night. In a cave. And the person looking is dead.

 

[Siftah]

That really doesn't make any sense whatsoever though, does it.

It does

People who don't know anything about cars will look at a car with no roof and think "sportscar".

They'll look at any other car with a roof and think "car", they may think "pretty car" or "ugly car" or "expensive looking car", but that's about as deep as the analysis gets.

Simples

The ZC and ZR are identical, of course, but for the roof. So by your logic, yours looks like a 1 Series convertible to the casual observer.

No, they'll just think "sportscar". Most people wouldn't have a clue what a 1-series convertible looks like - they only do a convertible saloon in the 1 series (AFAIK), so most people wouldn't even identify a 1-series saloon convertible as being the same as a 1 series hatch. If they could even identify it as a 1-series. I think if you asked most people to point out a 1-series they'd point out the Hatch, I doubt many people would point out the 1 series saloon and be able to spot it from any other BMW Saloon car.

The 1-series Hatch is a distinctive shape and is very similar to the Z3 Coupe and the Z4 Coupe, I suspect a lot of people will get them mixed up, sorry

Maybe if both cars are black. And it's night. In a cave. And the person looking is dead.

We're car people, we can spot the subtle differences but all cars look the same to the majority of people. I remember whenever my gran told me about someone having bought a new car we'd ask her what it was and without fail, she'd always reply along the lines of...

"Oooh, it's a blue one!"



I'm *definitely* not knocking the Coupe by the way. I love the Coupe shape in the same way I always loved the Z4 Coupe. The lines in the body on the Z4 really work well with the Coupe's roof and it's a great looking car - one of my favourites of all time.

 

[mikedav]

People who don't know anything about cars will look at a car with no roof and think "sportscar". They'll look at any other car with a roof and think "car", they may think "pretty car" or "ugly car" or "expensive looking car", but that's about as deep as the analysis gets. The 1-series Hatch is a distinctive shape and is very similar to the Z3 Coupe and the Z4 Coupe, I suspect a lot of people will get them mixed up, sorry

i agree people mix cars up I'm not trying to 'defend' the Coupe in some way (we don't need too ), I am arguing that when they mix things up, they do so consistently and your argument isn't logical. You are saying that a Z4 Coupe looks more like a 1 Series than a Z4 Roadster, and you have to admit that's basically, er...bollocks? They are identical from the waist down. Which is why people have asked me how the roof folds. LOL.

By your definition, people will look at this and won't think it's a 'sportscar'. They might confuse it with a Polo, perhaps?

After all, the roof doesn't go down so it must blend in with everything else on the road.

 

[Siftah]

i agree people mix cars up I'm not trying to 'defend' the Coupe in some way (we don't need too ), I am arguing that if they are going to mix things up, they will be consistent and your argument isn't logical. You are saying that a Z4 Coupe looks more like a 1 Series than a Z4 Roadster, and you have to admit that's basically, er...bollocks? They are identical from the waist down. Which is why people have asked me how the roof folds. LOL.

I'm generalising a bit for the sake of the conversation, but you've twisted what I said quite a bit.

My point was that people will spot the roadster and immediately label it as a sports car, they won't do that with the coupe. Having a soft-top is one of the cues which the average person without an interest in cars will take as denoting "a sportscar".

By your definition, people will look at this and won't think it's a 'sportscar'. They might confuse it with a Polo, perhaps?
After all, the roof doesn't go down so it must blend in with everything else on the road.

Course not, it's got a stripe, it must be a *race* car!

Anyway, that's not anything like my original point.

I've at no point said that anyone would confuse the cars if they were lined up next to each other, or would even confuse them as being the same car.

 

[Boogle]

I'm generalising a bit for the sake of the conversation, but you've twisted what I said quite a bit.

My point was that people will spot the roadster and immediately label it as a sports car, they won't do that with the coupe. Having a soft-top is one of the cues which the average person without an interest in cars will take as denoting "a sportscar".

I would say that used to be true, but with the advent of hot hatches, especially with the horsepower wars of the naughties; the term 'sportscar' has morphed into a synonym for 'fast car'.

However, there does seem to be a view from the general public (in my experience) that a convertible = expensive toy. The assumption is you're a lot richer than you actually are, so I would hazard that joe public would consider a 2.0 roadster as being much, much more valuable than the coupe. I suspect this is why the tin-top owners get less stick.

Of course there's also a weird assumption that all roadsters, and to a smaller extent, all convertibles... are hairdressers cars.

Sitfah, mikedav, I think you guys are missing each other's points. For the average female driver (sorry, sorry, I know, stereotype) driving a supermini - they struggle to see the difference between a lot of cars. I can very much see someone confusing a 1 series with a Z4. In fact, my mum has! She recently said to me after seeing a 1, 3, 5 series convertible 'I think I saw one of those Z4s you've been looking at'. Turns out it was rather large and had rear seats...

However, blokes tend to be more discerning and wouldn't make the same mistake. I know I'm generalising and stereotyping - just pointing out that you're really both right, but referencing different demographics.

 

[speed12]

One of my freinds gives me stick all the time about my Z4 (convertible), sometimes I ignore it but sometimes it does get a bit annoying. I know secretly all my freinds would like it.

The freind which is most annoying is more annoyed at the fact that his beloved more expensive A3 2.0 turbo quatro is not as fast as my Z4, nor does it sound as good. So much so that even though he can barely afford to run his car for 6K miles a year, he has decided to get a remap... I honestly beleive its so he can claim to have the "fastest" car in the group.

As for the women/ girls car comments I simply say, "how can you call a 3.0 straight six with rear wheel drive girly, when you drive a 4 cylinder 4wd hatchback in red".. I mean seriously which car requires more skill or awareness to drive??