is an M version ever going to come out?
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After careful consideration I have decided that the answer to this question is NO, NO, NO, NO and NO.
This mean, of course, that anyone fortunate enough to be owning an E85 M is sitting on (in) a future classic that is going to be worth millions. (Owners of E86 Ms may be equally lucky financially, but they'll not owning such a great car.)
So there, that the end of it - let the offers roll in!
This mean, of course, that anyone fortunate enough to be owning an E85 M is sitting on (in) a future classic that is going to be worth millions. (Owners of E86 Ms may be equally lucky financially, but they'll not owning such a great car.)
So there, that the end of it - let the offers roll in!
. I think the problem with the E89 35i as a future classic is the Z4M, the E89 has no \\\M pedigree so will be less sought after 
Tim.[/quote]
Mmm with respect I can't agree on that Tim. Not everyone wants an M and with such low build numbers, I'm guessing 400 max on the 35is by the time it's axed, straight 6, 340 BHP as stock, DCT as standard, smoother all round with an arguably much nicer interior and the folding hard top, I reckon it'll be a very sought after model like the M coupe in a few years and will make strong money. They're going to have plenty of followers and no problem selling a nice low mileage example.
As usual just IMO, be interested to hear anyone else's view on this unless it's too off topic.
Tim.[/quote]
Mmm with respect I can't agree on that Tim. Not everyone wants an M and with such low build numbers, I'm guessing 400 max on the 35is by the time it's axed, straight 6, 340 BHP as stock, DCT as standard, smoother all round with an arguably much nicer interior and the folding hard top, I reckon it'll be a very sought after model like the M coupe in a few years and will make strong money. They're going to have plenty of followers and no problem selling a nice low mileage example.
As usual just IMO, be interested to hear anyone else's view on this unless it's too off topic.
john-e89 said:. I think the problem with the E89 35i as a future classic is the Z4M, the E89 has no \\\M pedigree so will be less sought after
Tim.
Mmm with respect I can't agree on that Tim. Not everyone wants an M and with such low build numbers, I'm guessing 400 max on the 35is by the time it's axed, straight 6, 340 BHP as stock, DCT as standard, smoother all round with an arguably much nicer interior and the folding hard top, I reckon it'll be a very sought after model like the M coupe in a few years and will make strong money. They're going to have plenty of followers and no problem selling a nice low mileage example.
As usual just IMO, be interested to hear anyone else's view on this unless it's too off topic.[/quote]
Put it this way John, look at the Z3, 12 months ago you could pick up a decent Z3M roady for 7K or so, today your looking 12K plus, the 3.0 which was nearest powerwise your looking at 4K or so. The M brand makes all the difference that I reckon the E89 35i will be passed by for the Z4M. I'm not knocking the E89 but it just doesn't have the M Kudus that would make it more sought after or desirable. Of course I could be talking tosh
Tim.
Both cars will be sought after as times go on...
Rare BMW's always are aren't they?
4 years ago Z4M's where not seen as desirable,they had dropped off in price... Some priced under 10k,gladly they have bounced back..
It's all ebb and flow and what's "in" at any given time..the motor trade is a fickle mistress so choose your times well when it's time to buy or bail.
Rare BMW's always are aren't they?
4 years ago Z4M's where not seen as desirable,they had dropped off in price... Some priced under 10k,gladly they have bounced back..
It's all ebb and flow and what's "in" at any given time..the motor trade is a fickle mistress so choose your times well when it's time to buy or bail.
Fair point Tim, however I do think the 35is offers a lot more kit which will make it as least as desirable as an M in an admittedly niche market, but the low numbers will deal with that and keep prices for nice ones strong. If there were lots more of them then yes I doubt the same would count.
....and I could well be,and probably am, talking tosh too.
....and I could well be,and probably am, talking tosh too.
john-e89 said:Fair point Tim, however I do think the 35is offers a lot more kit which will make it as least as desirable as an M in an admittedly niche market, but the low numbers will deal with that and keep prices for nice ones strong. If there were lots more of them then yes I doubt the same would count.
....and I could well be,and probably am, talking tosh too.
Will be interesting to see in 10/15 years time, there is another factor which could help or hinder the E89 35i in its desirability or any E89 for that matter is its complexity i.e. the roof I wonder how much this will affect long term residuals with buyers giving it a wide birth as the cars get older, its not like a ragtop which are relatively easy and cheap to swap out.
Tim.
It's not a great surprise that a 35iS is as quick (or quicker) than a Z4M in that track video. For a start it's at least 5 years newer technology, on a car that had an RRP £3k higher with very similar power and a boat load more torque. Frankly the fact that a Z4M can keep it honest, is a testament to the M Division.
I personally don't think the 35iS will attract much of a following as a classic in the future but it's all conjecture really isn't it? We none of us know. My reasoning is that it has little pedigree - it didn't go racing (the E86M did), it's not an M, it doesn't have any uniqueness in its engineering either - it's not the last straight six NA M car with no driver aids or DCT for example. There is no curio about it other than the fact it was low volume and top of the E89 tree.
I personally don't think the 35iS will attract much of a following as a classic in the future but it's all conjecture really isn't it? We none of us know. My reasoning is that it has little pedigree - it didn't go racing (the E86M did), it's not an M, it doesn't have any uniqueness in its engineering either - it's not the last straight six NA M car with no driver aids or DCT for example. There is no curio about it other than the fact it was low volume and top of the E89 tree.