Intermittent ABS/DSC Fault

harrycodlife

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 Stevenage
Hi Everyone - 58 Reg BMW Z4 3.0si Sport Coupe E86 - About 65000 miles on the clock - Driving home the other day - Just before I got home the ABS and DSC warning lights pinged on the dashboard - First time I have seen that - Local garage says issue is intermittent fault with the pump according to their diagnostics - In fact on the way to the garage the lights went out - I don't have the fault codes yet unfortunately - Would really appreciate some advice on whether I should fork out for a new pump, have this pump repaired or buy a second hand pump - I don't have the skills to fit a new pump myself unfortunately - If you can point me in the direction of a good garage I would really appreciate that too - Many Thanks.
 
I believe according to a recent thread Mike can repair an ABS unit, may be wrong. They are like £400 for another one so a repair would be the wiser option if it can be done.
 
Monkeydonkeyratmagic said:
I believe according to a recent thread Mike can repair an ABS unit, may be wrong. They are like £400 for another one so a repair would be the wiser option if it can be done.

Yup, I can sort that for you, takes about 2 hours all in..

Mike
 
before you do anything get the codes to ensure its not one of the pressure sensors. they fail more than the pumps and are an dead easy fix as long as you've got a 27mm spanner!
 
It's more than likely just the carbon brushes sticking on the ABS pump / motor. Fairly easy DIY if you got the guts and the spanners, otherwise Ducklakeview on here will sort it for less than somewhere like ECUtesting.com
 
MACK said:
before you do anything get the codes to ensure its not one of the pressure sensors. they fail more than the pumps and are an dead easy fix as long as you've got a 27mm spanner!

If the codes are 5DF0 and 5DF1 it's the pump, which I can fix for you.

Mike
 
Hi Guys - I can confirm the fault codes - 5DF0 - Hydraulic Pump Intermittent - 5DF1 - Hydraulic Unit Pump Motor Connection Faulty Intermittent - Sounds like a repair job? - Would I need to have the pump removed and post it up or drive the vehicle up etc - Many Thanks.
 
For further info - The garage also asked if I use it much because if not and it is standing in a garage for any length of time the valves or a valve within the pump can stick if not used - In fact I don't drive the car to work as I work very locally and just use it on holidays and to drive to the races occasionally so it can sit in the garage for a couple of weeks at a time (I know, sacrilege). Cheers.
 
harrycodlife said:
For further info - The garage also asked if I use it much because if not and it is standing in a garage for any length of time the valves or a valve within the pump can stick if not used - In fact I don't drive the car to work as I work very locally and just use it on holidays and to drive to the races occasionally so it can sit in the garage for a couple of weeks at a time (I know, sacrilege). Cheers.

It's not normally the valves that stick, as they sit covered in brake fluid. The brushes on the motor are the normal culprit, and this will be shown with the codes. It may also say "hydraulic pump motor connector faulty" and "hydraulic pump no signal"

Mike
 
harrycodlife said:
Thanks Mike - How do we go about arranging a repair for the pump - Many Thanks.

You can either come to me in the car (preferred, as you'll see it done and working) or send me the pump?

Mike
 
Codes are the surefire way but typically:

1) DSC + ABS = ABS pump.
2) DSC + handbrake (in yellow) = pressure sensor
3) DSC + ABS + handbrake (in red) = wheel speed sensor.
4) DSC + ABS + handbrake (in yellow) + tyre pressure = wheel speed sensor.
5) DSC + ABS + handbrake (in yellow) = steering angle sensor fault / ABS pump.
6) DSC permanently on = steering angle sensor calibration issue / yaw sensor / lat accel sensor.

There are other combinations of faulty sensors which can cause similar lights but the above are the common ones.
 
I had DSC, ABS and handbrake all in yellow and it was the pump. Had the fault codes as mentioned above.
I had mine repaired at Munich Legends in Sussex. Was easy for me to leave the car with them whilst I was away.
 
dhobbs said:
I had DSC, ABS and handbrake all in yellow and it was the pump. Had the fault codes as mentioned above.
I had mine repaired at Munich Legends in Sussex. Was easy for me to leave the car with them whilst I was away.

Thanks...have amended table.
 
ph001 said:
Codes are the surefire way but typically:

1) DSC + ABS = ABS pump.
2) DSC + handbrake (in yellow) = pressure sensor
3) DSC + ABS + handbrake (in red) = wheel speed sensor.
4) DSC + ABS + handbrake (in yellow) + tyre pressure = wheel speed sensor.
5) DSC + ABS + handbrake (in yellow) = steering angle sensor fault / ABS pump.
6) DSC permanently on = steering angle sensor calibration issue / yaw sensor / lat accel sensor.

There are other combinations of faulty sensors which can cause similar lights but the above are the common ones.

Thanks for the info - Very useful - Cheers!
 
Teffific job you did there Mike - I learned a lot from watcing how you work - Very interesting - Highly recommended Mike! - Thanks again. :thumbsup:
 
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