AlfaScozzesi said:craig3.2 said:Mr Tidy said:I like David Cameron, and was quite pleased when he won the Conservative leadership contest.
He took a huge gamble with this referendum, and from what I can make out the EU sh*fted him as the concessions they offered were pretty much worthless! Which pretty much sums up the EU, and to a degree most politicians; totally out of touch with the typical voter, but of course the EU gravy train runs on irrespective because it is pretty much unaccountable to anyone - can't even get the accounts signed off!
But at least we won't be paying for it any more thankfully! Which may be why the Dutch and Swedes are a bit rattled - someone will have to fill that financial hole!
Shame Cameron felt he had to resign, but in a way I have more respect for him doing that as it at least suggests he has some principles!
Corbyn hasn't resigned, but may have to soon! Shame really as with him as leader Labour pretty much guaranteed they were unelectable!
I can't see a long-term trade problem - we buy more from the EU than we sell to them so what would they gain from any restrictions?
And at least we now get to decide who we let in to the country!
Looking forward to another Scottish Independence referendum - hopefully they'll leave the UK and get paid for by the EU instead of the rest of the UK!
If they don't have one then maybe the silent majority (the English) should have a referendum on Scottish independence, and get rid! (Sorry Bing, you may need a passport just South of Gretna)! (And before I get too much grief, my father was born near Inverness)!
Glad the turn-out was so high, and that the electorate finally had the opportunity to express their opinion in a clear fashion - interesting times for sure!
Mr Tidy,i was just reading this,and thinking to myself,yes, I agree with that thought......
Cameron has the right idea on wanting to cut benefits for those who are dependent on them,i.e maybe 3rd or 4th generation unemployed,or never worked a day in their adult life
While Sturgeon wants to tax us Scots more,to pay for More benefits for those who have no intention of ever working(and by that,i don't mean every one on benefits,just lazy ones who don't want to work).
She also wants Scotland to welcome more immigrants......
Yet most felow Scottish people I talk to want the same as the rest of the UK,in Less immigrants coming here,as they are getting fed up with the current situation!
......then you had to have a go and say "get rid".
Well most sensible Scots wanted to stay part of the UK,for reasons previously mentioned, because letting the SNP run us Independently would mean more tax,more immigrants,etc etc.
Oh,and Scotland have more spent on them per head,re health,etc than the rest of the UK,but we also have paid in Large revenues to Westminster coffers from years of Oil industry boom time(now on it's backside), because the UK government spent that money elsewhere,rather than doing the sensible thing,like Scandinavian countries,and put away money for a rainy day,for the Oil industry,for times such as now!!
Anyway,I think we should Leave the EU,as we managed for years without being ruled by them,and we will still be in the common market,which, in itself means we will still have to take in Migrant workers.....but hopefully we can set our own legislation on a cap on numbers,and let our fishermen fish our own Waters,and not the Spanish,etc![]()
Anyway,this will drag on for a while,no doubt...a bit like this post,lol![]()
Hopefully it will all come good in the end....a Strong United Kingdom,not ruled/dictated to by Merkel and Brussels....and (despite being very Patriotic),a United Kingdom,where Scotland isn't run by a party (that I used to vote for),who let unlimited migrants in,and tax us more for the privilege.
I agree with a lot of what you say there Craig with a few changes. My business for one has benefitted from migrant workers who want to work rather than sit on their arse.
Most welfare is paid out to home grown folk who think the world owes them and are incapable of working for any extended period without going off the rails in my experience.
I also think we will end up independent but along the same path that England has taken us out of the EU by rehtoric rather than reason!
Alfascosezi,i know alot of business' benefit from migrant workers,but that's because they pay them Less wages/lower hourly rates.
One of my wife's ex uni pals used to work every summer in Strawberry picking,as extra income .....and until about 5years ago,there were only one or two migrants working there.....now she is the only Scot!!
So I don't buy into the fact that businesses need migrants,or that they do jobs that UK workers don't want.While this can be the case,it is not entirely so.Just an easy way for companies to make more money for the fatcats....look at Oil companies using the return in oil prices as an excuse to make hundreds unemployed.....while they still make Billions in profit,as a company!! Makes me sick.
Plus,in my job,i see Alot of migrants,in paid for Council houses/rented property,claiming benefits,while having large screen TVs in every room,and them and their wife's,kids all getting free NHS and dental care... which is costing millions and crippling the NHS.
So personally think we need less migrants in Scotland and the UK as a whole,not more.....we are only a wee island after all,relativeoy speaking.(we don't have the land mass of USA or Australia,lol).
Anyway,just my opinion mate
P.S, there are now also alot of Electrical contractors employing Eastern Europeans at £10/hour or less(way below the proper rate of £15),and that causes alot of hassle...the quality of work they are doing,in the main,leaves alot to be desired .