How-To - e89 Cruise Control Retro-fit
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Morning all,
Anyone awaiting the new How-To video and guide.... sorry they've got delayed as I've now edited in the additional footage for anyone that has a heated steering wheel and I still need to film a road test sequence to finish the video off. I also still haven't managed to get all the new screen grabs for the written guide yet either.
Don't worry though as there is nothing wrong with the original video or guide it's just that the new ones will be more informative
:driving:
Anyone not wanting to try this themselves, but would still like Cruise, then don't forget I do offer this from my home in Grantham, Lincolnshire. £120 (the parts are over £600 new alone from BMW!!) all in and I've normally got the parts in stock (heated steering wheel panels are quite expensive and rare, but I am trying to keep one in all the time now, heated steering wheel cost is £160 all in) so give me a shout (via PM) if this is what you'd like to do and I'll get you sorted out 8)
Anyone awaiting the new How-To video and guide.... sorry they've got delayed as I've now edited in the additional footage for anyone that has a heated steering wheel and I still need to film a road test sequence to finish the video off. I also still haven't managed to get all the new screen grabs for the written guide yet either.
Don't worry though as there is nothing wrong with the original video or guide it's just that the new ones will be more informative
:driving: Anyone not wanting to try this themselves, but would still like Cruise, then don't forget I do offer this from my home in Grantham, Lincolnshire. £120 (the parts are over £600 new alone from BMW!!) all in and I've normally got the parts in stock (heated steering wheel panels are quite expensive and rare, but I am trying to keep one in all the time now, heated steering wheel cost is £160 all in) so give me a shout (via PM) if this is what you'd like to do and I'll get you sorted out
8)Just out of interest, how much effort is retro fitting a heated steering wheel? (and how effective are they in real life!)
Timmyboybunter said:
It's do'able
and without too much effort (dependent on you "effort" scoring lol).You'd need.....
Heated steering wheel (obviously
)Correct slip ring
Lower steering cowl panel
Switch
various connectors and some wiring.
The wheel, slip ring and cowl are not cheap and not always that easy to find.
Apart from the physical fitting and wiring then you'd need to go through the coding stage as well.
And as for how effective they are, well I'd say they are as good for your hands as the heated seat is for you bum!!
I've fitted cruise to four now with heated wheels and I always test that it works once the battery is back on (as well as the new stalks, just in case!!) so I've had the chance to feel them working (as I don't have it on my own car) and can honestly say they are awesome, but you don't need them on for long.
Now comes the problem though, when I say not cheap...… last time I saw a wheel for sale it was £380, the slip ring is about £80+, lower cowl is around £60 - £80, if it doesn't have the switch with it then you could be paying another £40 for that as well, so as you can see is it worth all that outlay for the sake of wearing a pair of gloves??!! :?
Thanks, very useful - definitely is a lot of money but I do have the roof down in any and all temperatures. I have the vents aimed PERFECTLY at my hands in the straight ahead position so generally they do stay nice and warm (not a fan of gloves) but the heated wheel sounds like a nice luxury. It will also stop me snapping at people when they change the air vent angles
Hi Dave, would love you to retrofit cruise on mine, just need to plan as its a 280 mile drive to get to you :driving:AnubisZed said:Timmyboybunter said:
It's do'able
You'd need.....
Heated steering wheel (obviously
Correct slip ring
Lower steering cowl panel
Switch
various connectors and some wiring.
The wheel, slip ring and cowl are not cheap and not always that easy to find.
Apart from the physical fitting and wiring then you'd need to go through the coding stage as well.
And as for how effective they are, well I'd say they are as good for your hands as the heated seat is for you bum!!
I've fitted cruise to four now with heated wheels and I always test that it works once the battery is back on (as well as the new stalks, just in case!!) so I've had the chance to feel them working (as I don't have it on my own car) and can honestly say they are awesome, but you don't need them on for long.
Now comes the problem though, when I say not cheap...… last time I saw a wheel for sale it was £380, the slip ring is about £80+, lower cowl is around £60 - £80, if it doesn't have the switch with it then you could be paying another £40 for that as well, so as you can see is it worth all that outlay for the sake of wearing a pair of gloves??!! :?
Zed Baron said:
Yeah no problem, I can forward plan a long way in advance
I've had two guys come down to me from Scotland, one from Edinburgh and one from Glasgow so no problem my end
Just send me a PM when you want to plan it in and we'll sort it out.
Timmyboybunter said:Thanks, very useful - definitely is a lot of money but I do have the roof down in any and all temperatures. I have the vents aimed PERFECTLY at my hands in the straight ahead position so generally they do stay nice and warm (not a fan of gloves) but the heated wheel sounds like a nice luxury. It will also stop me snapping at people when they change the air vent angles
I did consider it myself, but once I worked out the price I decided it simply wasn't worth the expense
Well, a german seller just accepted an offer of £155 including postage for a set of cruise control stalks including cowl, heated switch and slip ring - so I'll tuck these away in the loft until I get time to do some proper research (quick Google tells me if it's not fitted from standard, the required wiring isn't present in the steering column but that's literally 30 seconds worth of skim reading) and a wheel pops up.
Stick me down as a willing guinea pig if the opportunity ever arises
Stick me down as a willing guinea pig if the opportunity ever arises
Timmyboybunter said:Well, a german seller just accepted an offer of £155 including postage for a set of cruise control stalks including cowl, heated switch and slip ring - so I'll tuck these away in the loft until I get time to do some proper research (quick Google tells me if it's not fitted from standard, the required wiring isn't present in the steering column but that's literally 30 seconds worth of skim reading) and a wheel pops up.
Stick me down as a willing guinea pig if the opportunity ever arises
Yeah a bit of extra wiring (off the top of my head I think it's 2 canbus wires and pos and neg for power) and a plug that is double the size of the normal one that goes into the slip-ring. The cruise control stalks are the same no matter heated wheel or not, it's the slip ring that's different.
Like I say I did do some research into this so have some info, I'd be happy to give it a shot
:driving: Just need to work out the coding.Cheers, I'll probably take you up on that - I'll keep an eye out for a suitable wheel, but as I'll want an M-Sport one (I find the standard one a bit skinny) it may take a while. One sold a few months ago on US Ebay for $200 though so there's a glimmer of hope.
There is a BRAND NEW video just been uploaded to the first post.
With more information on buying parts, some minor improvements to the install and programming, and a test run with demo included.
Also brand new .pdf How-To guide has been produced including a new source for the BMW Tools suite :driving:
With more information on buying parts, some minor improvements to the install and programming, and a test run with demo included.
Also brand new .pdf How-To guide has been produced including a new source for the BMW Tools suite :driving:
Did yesterday the retrofit with al stalk for 70 euro included the Lower steering cowl panel from a E90
After the programming it seems to work, but when i turned the steerwheel i got errors.
RFM and steering and so on.
I have a E89 3.5i with Sdrive. so any idea whats wrong?
Did the coding again, but no effort.
After the programming it seems to work, but when i turned the steerwheel i got errors.
RFM and steering and so on.
I have a E89 3.5i with Sdrive. so any idea whats wrong?
Did the coding again, but no effort.
If you followed the guide correctly, then you will receive a load of warnings the first journey after you have completed the retrofit (including traction control, tyre pressure monitors etc).
Then the next time you fire up the car, they will all magically disappear - that was my experience anyway (and I see the same behaviour every time I disconnect the battery).
Then the next time you fire up the car, they will all magically disappear - that was my experience anyway (and I see the same behaviour every time I disconnect the battery).
cvhuis said:
Did you follow the guide "to the letter"??? Every step? Any problems during coding at all? Did you do the final 'Tool32' steps?
If you followed the coding to the How-To then exactly then you wouldn't get that error, if I was to take a guess then I'd say you have not done the 'Tool32' steps correctly, that would throw up errors. The previous coding, using 'NCSExpert', is to telll the car that you now have Cruise, you use 'Tool32' to reset the steering angle sensor.
HTH
I did al the steps form the latest how-to from Dave.
And also the Tools32 steps.
I followed the how-to very carefully and all steps went wel, i only did not see the pop-up at point 59.
but it shows the same ecu's at point 60
Then performed the Tool32 succesful.
It al seems good, but when driving en steering all the errors appears.
FTM and DSC nd steering and stability errors ....
Again i performed the steps with NCS and the Tool32, but still no succes.
I think i will undo the retrofit tommorow and place the original stalk back and undo the NCS changes.
That is i think:
Undo the change in the TEMPOMAT wert 2 to 1
And remove $544 and follow the same steps form the how-to?
When everything is than ok (i hope) I will do the exercise again.
Is this a good idea or is there another option?
And also the Tools32 steps.
I followed the how-to very carefully and all steps went wel, i only did not see the pop-up at point 59.
but it shows the same ecu's at point 60
Then performed the Tool32 succesful.
It al seems good, but when driving en steering all the errors appears.
FTM and DSC nd steering and stability errors ....
Again i performed the steps with NCS and the Tool32, but still no succes.
I think i will undo the retrofit tommorow and place the original stalk back and undo the NCS changes.
That is i think:
Undo the change in the TEMPOMAT wert 2 to 1
And remove $544 and follow the same steps form the how-to?
When everything is than ok (i hope) I will do the exercise again.
Is this a good idea or is there another option?
Ok then, just as an idea....... when you bought the stalk assembly did it come with the slip ring? If it did did you swap it over with your original or use the new one?
This is not a Cruise issue, it's a steering angle issue, which is the slip ring. You could undo everything, but I honestly think it's a waste of time this is definitely to do with the slip ring.
This is not a Cruise issue, it's a steering angle issue, which is the slip ring. You could undo everything, but I honestly think it's a waste of time this is definitely to do with the slip ring.