Grammar Police

Woots said:
sars said:
However it's when it gets personal that I find most distasteful....

Also LacroupAde hasn't posted since the Batman incident of the 23rd July

Link?
I want a nose....

http://www.z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=40289
 
Whilst I agree with what everyone's saying one thing puzzles me.
What has it got to do with our Nan's and why is there a police department for them?
 
original guvnor said:
Carol M said:
Whilst I agree with what everyone's saying one thing puzzles me.
What has it got to do with our Nan's and why is there a police department for them?

Shall I get your coat.... :rofl:

No, I insist, let me :lol:
 
Carol M said:
Whilst I agree with what everyone's saying one thing puzzles me.
What has it got to do with our Nan's and why is there a police department for them?

Brilliant Carol :thumbsup:
 
Agreed, obviously! :thumbsup: But that's easy for me to say being a non native, so I basically just accepted other people not correcting me ... :? Well, anyway, please feel free to do so nevertheless, keeps my learning curve going the right way.
 
Mau said:
Agreed, obviously! :thumbsup: But that's easy for me to say being a non native, so I basically just accepted other people not correcting me ... :? Well, anyway, please feel free to do so nevertheless, keeps my learning curve going the right way.

Mau, as a native of the Netherlands I wouldn't worry, you lot speak English better than we do in my experience!! :thumbsup:
 
original guvnor said:
Mau said:
Agreed, obviously! :thumbsup: But that's easy for me to say being a non native, so I basically just accepted other people not correcting me ... :? Well, anyway, please feel free to do so nevertheless, keeps my learning curve going the right way.


Mau, as a native of the Netherlands I wouldn't worry, you lot speak English better than we do in my experience!! :thumbsup:

It is hard to develop good English if the people around you write sloppily. Mau's English is fine but in the last sentence his subordinate clause theoretically needs a subordinate conjunction ( a cause and effect transition) to be grammatically correct.

ie. (because it)/(as it) keeps my learning curve going the right way.

But the 'because' is unnecessary, it is implicit in the comma that introduces the subordinate clause, so we just need the 'it'

ie. Well, anyway, please feel free to do so nevertheless, (it) keeps my learning curve going the right way.


Mau, your English is very good, your sentence carried all it needed to. It was clear what you meant. I have posted this expansion in this instance because I *think* that you might be interested in the technicalities and as a contribution to the debate. If you already knew them you are ahead of 90% of native English speakers. We rarely know our grammar, we tend to know if something sounds incorrect but we don't know why. I think ESL educated people are frequently better informed than us.

Disclaimer: It is thirty years since I did this stuff, I have checked my post against an on-line grammar resource so it should be sound but I am a little rusty. :)
 
Finisterre said:
I attended a Grammar in the early 70s. Every kid in the school year was ranked by their spelling. Knowing you were 18/125 in Y7 was enough to concentrate the mind. Poor spelling has felt like a failing ever since.

Maybe it is a generational thing.


it would be better if people were ranked on how nice they are rather than how clever they are
 
Taz x said:
Finisterre said:
I attended a Grammar in the early 70s. Every kid in the school year was ranked by their spelling. Knowing you were 18/125 in Y7 was enough to concentrate the mind. Poor spelling has felt like a failing ever since.

Maybe it is a generational thing.


it would be better if people were ranked on how nice they are rather than how clever they are

+1 Taz :-)
 
Mau said:
Agreed, obviously! :thumbsup: But that's easy for me to say being a non native, so I basically just accepted other people not correcting me ... :? Well, anyway, please feel free to do so nevertheless, keeps my learning curve going the right way.

Same here :thumbsup:
 
[/quote]it would be better if people were ranked on how nice they are rather than how clever they are[/quote]

x1000

(can't even get the stupid quote-thingy right. What hope do I have? :?
 
to correct somebody in an helpful manner is good, but to correct somebody and put them down in with an 'I am better than you' attitude is completely wrong
 
Taz x said:
Finisterre said:
I attended a Grammar in the early 70s. Every kid in the school year was ranked by their spelling. Knowing you were 18/125 in Y7 was enough to concentrate the mind. Poor spelling has felt like a failing ever since.

Maybe it is a generational thing.


it would be better if people were ranked on how nice they are rather than how clever they are

X1000
 
I have been a member of a few forums in the past and it's suprising how often this sort of thing goes on.I have stopped going on one of them because of exactly that kind of behaviour from some of the members.

I don't have dislexia but I do have dispraxia, this made my school years very hard as nobody had really heard of it back then, I was just branded as lazy and not willing to put any effort in. The fact was I was putting so much effort into just getting a sentence on paper things like grammar and spelling were the last thing on my list of priorities.

To this day I still can't write joined up and I know it's not a lack of inteligence as the last time I did an IQ test it was 135.

I'm fortunate in that I ended up in enginering as a trade and it turned out to be something I could do very well.Spelling and grammar is something that some people are just not suited too, but I can strip a motorcycle down to it's bare bones for a bit of fun :P .
 
I've obviously not been reading enough of the posts recently to notice people picking up other's grammar... if it's happening then said people need to get a life, it's not like we are in english lesson at school...

tomscott - big respect to you, I would never have known from reading any of your posts and can only imagine the time and effort that must therefore go into some of your very well worded and informed posts :thumbsup:
 
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