Grammar Police

original guvnor said:
No Exdos, as I said earlier it wasn't aimed at one person. I've just picked up a few instances of this in recent days and each time I read it I wince to myself.

In your particular case I've no doubt at all it was meant as humour and not intended as bullying. You are an articulate and valued contributor, but when you don't know the background as to why someone might make a mistake it can leave a nasty taste in the mouth.
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:thumbsup: I'm pleased about that.

Personally, I consider the relaxed modern-day attitude to spelling and grammar does the English language a huge disservice and denies its poor-users a huge amount of amusement and wit that can only be had from the clever use of words. Such a shame. :(

Education was knocked into my generation and it did us no harm.
 
exdos said:
original guvnor said:
No Exdos, as I said earlier it wasn't aimed at one person. I've just picked up a few instances of this in recent days and each time I read it I wince to myself.

In your particular case I've no doubt at all it was meant as humour and not intended as bullying. You are an articulate and valued contributor, but when you don't know the background as to why someone might make a mistake it can leave a nasty taste in the mouth.
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:thumbsup: I'm pleased about that.

Personally, I consider the relaxed modern-day attitude to spelling and grammar does the English language a huge disservice and denies its poor-users a huge amount of amusement and wit that can only be had from the clever use of words. Such a shame. :(

Education was knocked into my generation and it did us no harm.
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I'd agree with you wholeheartedly but I think the classroom is the place to do it as you say. :thumbsup:
 
exdos said:
Personally, I consider the relaxed modern-day attitude to spelling and grammar does the English language a huge disservice and denies its poor-users a huge amount of amusement and wit that can only be had from the clever use of words. Such a shame. :(

Education was knocked into my generation and it did us no harm.
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Perchance another Grammar school kid? My youngest daughter reads vociferously and can use words as weapons. It's got her into trouble at school more than once (good girl)

EDIT - I've been had by someone who will remain nameless and quite correctly pulled me up on voracious vs vociferous :rofl:
 
Stuart Truman said:
Perchance another Grammar school kid? My youngest daughter reads vociferously and can use words as weapons. It's got her into trouble at school more than once (good girl)
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Yes, from a working class background and it has served me extremely well in many different ways. I have no truck with political correctness and regret the fact that the young of today are largely denied the opportunities that I have had on the alleged grounds of "fairness".
 
I attended a Grammar in the early 70s. Every kid in the school year was ranked by their spelling. Knowing you were 18/125 in Y7 was enough to concentrate the mind. Poor spelling has felt like a failing ever since.

Maybe it is a generational thing.
 
Finisterre said:
I attended a Grammar in the early 70s. Every kid in the school year was ranked by their spelling. Knowing you were 18/125 in Y7 was enough to concentrate the mind. Poor spelling has felt like a failing ever since.

Maybe it is a generational thing.
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Some of it is, but having two kids with dyslexia, one of who continues to struggle, I am not so keen to jump on spelling. However, if you start on the txt speak, I will load up and fire with both barrels!
 
exdos said:
Yes, from a working class background and it has served me extremely well in many different ways. I have no truck with political correctness and regret the fact that the young of today are largely denied the opportunities that I have had on the alleged grounds of "fairness".
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Off topic but, Margaret Thatcher closed more Grammars than any other Secretary of State for Education, (not that she was a particular supporter of comprehensives). I think it wasn't a lack fairness that drove the comprehensive movement but what was seen to be the failing of the previous Governments to invest adequately in the technical branch of the tripartite system. That investment was required to make the most of the skills present in the less academic and the concentration of resources on the Grammars was damaging national competitiveness.

I don't actually remember the arguments being put as I was too young but that is my impression from reading Thatcher's 'Path to Power'.
 
i agree op. particularly when the aggressor is guilty of worse grammatical errors themselves...say no more.. :)
 
Yes I struggle with dyslexia. But continue non the less. Mine was not officially recognised until I went to university, so really struggled at school, and went to a QE Grammar. It takes me a long time to write things, as I put letters in words in the wrong order so spelling has always been a problem anyway. I find it very frustrating as its difficult to form structured arguments. The amount of time it takes me to write some of these posts is actualy shocking lol!

But :ilz4f: so will continue.

I also find that sometimes structured arguments come across as aggressive and are seen differently but as is the problem with this style of discussion there isn't much emotion in it similar to txt. So maybe we should give ourselves a break every once in a while as this is a great community and I have been privileged to meet a few of you and hopefully in the future will meet more :thumbsup:
 
Stuart Truman said:
Finisterre said:
Maybe it is a generational thing.
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Some of it is, but having two kids with dyslexia, one of who continues to struggle, I am not so keen to jump on spelling. However, if you start on the txt speak, I will load up and fire with both barrels!
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It is good that we have moved on. The scrap heaping of talented people due to their dyslexia was a national scandal. I am not a supporter of academically selective education. Selecting out those that disrupt the keen and motivated (and supporting them properly) makes much more sense to me. All the current comprehensive schools differentiate by aptitude within the classroom already, setting and streaming add to the mix. Dealing with low level disruption is more useful than branding 75% of children as failures at age eleven. IMHO.
 
Taz x said:
Carol M, RubyBlueZ4MC, fanks :)

but where is sars
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:kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :heart:

Will that do :D

As for the OP, I have no real issues either way, my forte is design, mathematics and physics, grammar and spelling not so and thus I refrain from throwing the first stone. However I do understand that there are people who find it difficult to ignore other peoples grammatical errors and in the same way those whom's first utterance is to point out incorrect facts on a whole range of topics.
 
Finisterre said:
Stuart Truman said:
Finisterre said:
Maybe it is a generational thing.
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Some of it is, but having two kids with dyslexia, one of who continues to struggle, I am not so keen to jump on spelling. However, if you start on the txt speak, I will load up and fire with both barrels!
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It is good that we have moved on. The scrap heaping of talented people due to their dyslexia was a national scandal. I am not a supporter of academically selective education. Selecting out those that disrupt the keen and motivated (and supporting them properly) makes much more sense to me. All the current comprehensive schools differentiate by aptitude within the classroom already, setting and streaming add to the mix. Dealing with low level disruption is more useful than branding 75% of children as failures at age eleven. IMHO.
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Eldest (who continues to struggle) ended up boarding at Summerhill school after the local middle school let him and us down, and finished with one O level (not GCSE's, they still offer proper exams) which was the only one he took. Fortunately the local college works with the local Steiner school (who don't do exams) and offered him a place after an interview. From there to a foundation degree to two unconditional uni offers. He's currently put his studies on hold as the pressures of the dissertation got too much. He's just talking to them about going back to finish and I'll pay for a private tutor to help him out if needed.

He has a good sense of humour about it though. He has a T-Shirt that says "Dyslexics have more fnu" which got him into a conversation with a woman who took massive offence as her child was dyslexic. She totally deflated when he said he was too...
 
tomscott said:
Yes I struggle with dyslexia. But continue non the less. Mine was not officially recognised until I went to university, so really struggled at school, and went to a QE Grammar. It takes me a long time to write things, as I put letters in words in the wrong order so spelling has always been a problem anyway. I find it very frustrating as its difficult to form structured arguments. The amount of time it takes me to write some of these posts is actualy shocking lol!

But :ilz4f: so will continue.

I also find that sometimes structured arguments come across as aggressive and are seen differently but as is the problem with this style of discussion there isn't much emotion in it similar to txt. So maybe we should give ourselves a break every once in a while as this is a great community and I have been privileged to meet a few of you and hopefully in the future will meet more :thumbsup:
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Hate to do this but er....you started the sentence with "But". That simply will not do! :rcard: :wink:
Back on topic my dad has dyslexia, but he has earned more money than i ever will so it doesn't really prove anything or make that person worse than anyone else. :thumbsup:
 
However it's when it gets personal that I find most distasteful....

Also LacroupAde hasn't posted since the Batman incident of the 23rd July
 
tomscott said:
Yes I struggle with dyslexia. But continue non the less. Mine was not officially recognised until I went to university, so really struggled at school, and went to a QE Grammar. It takes me a long time to write things, as I put letters in words in the wrong order so spelling has always been a problem anyway. I find it very frustrating as its difficult to form structured arguments. The amount of time it takes me to write some of these posts is actualy shocking lol!
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My eldest described it as "the words have holes in" when trying to read. It took ages to sort and I totally sympathise.
 
sars said:
However it's when it gets personal that I find most distasteful....

Also LacroupAde hasn't posted since the Batman incident of the 23rd July
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Link?
I want a nose....
 
sars said:
However it's when it gets personal that I find most distasteful....

Also LacroupAde hasn't posted since the Batman incident of the 23rd July
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I noticed that the other day. Nor has Navid V either since "wheelgate".
 
tomscott, genuinely pleased you posted in this thread :thumbsup:

You obviously take care over what you are writing and saying in your posts, and you are passionate - it shows, and that is what matters.
 
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