Clutch Linkage - Gearbox Replaced

[dgm]

I'm looking for a quick answer on this if possible as I need to get the car fixed prior to going to France the week after next.

The clutch mechanism on my Z4MC has become very noisy and feels like the linkage is very slack. You can hear it when the clutch is disengaged from high revs, particularly in first and second but through the rest of the gears as well. The movement can also be felt through the clutch pedal. The change between first and second has also become much more notchy than usual.

I had it in at BMW last week for this and other issues that I want resolved prior to the 3 year warranty expiring. Their solution to my clutch problem was, according to the ill informed receptionist, to lubricate it which quite obviously has had no effect whatsoever. I've been working away from home this week so I haven't had the opportunity to take it back to them but it will be going back in next week. To save any more nonsense from them and as time is limited, can anyone tell me if they have had the same problem and how it was rectified?

thanks

David

 

[Beedub]

this is a strange issue and this is the first one ive heard, how did these "noises" start?? did you hit anythink?? ect ect

 

[dgm]

No, nothing was hit, it just appeared one day. Apart from the particularly notchy changes and noises, the clutch is working as it should. I've driven this car for 2 years and the E46 M3 with the same set up for over 2 years before it and haven't had any similar problems up until now.

 

[dgm]

Just an update on this, the car is back in the dealers in the UK for the 3rd time regarding this issue and also spent 3 days in a BMW garage in Toulon (Bavaria BMW - tossers but that's another story). The gearbox is now being replaced under warranty due to excessive movement in the input shaft. As usual with these cars, there is a 5 day wait until parts are delivered from Germany. Whilst everything is dismantled I'm taking the opportunity to replace the clutch which the dealer is doing for the price of the part only. The clutch is only showing normal wear and tear just now but as I'm planning on keeping the car for another couple of years at least then I feel it's worth doing.

In the meantime I've got a 118d loaner from the dealer which is boring me to death. Because the delay is now caused by a wait for the clutch to arrive, apparently BMW UK have to provide me with a comparable car to mine. I'll believe that when I see it, I predict a 320d or similar but at least I'll be mobile so I won't moan too much.

 

[Z4coupebeaver]

How many miles have you done. I wonder what would cause excess play in the input shaft? Sounds like a knackered or missing spigot bush in the flywheel.

I am of course worried myself as I think I may have an issue with my gearbox that I am still in discussion with BMW over.

 

[SittingBull]

How many miles have you done. I wonder what would cause excess play in the input shaft? Sounds like a knackered or missing spigot bush in the flywheel.

I am of course worried myself as I think I may have an issue with my gearbox that I am still in discussion with BMW over.

Ahh, that will be the previous owner thrashing the car within an inch of it's life. You know who he is so why not speak to him? :evil:

 

[dgm]

Behave yourself Bull, you are a boring fecker.

The problem first manifested itself at 22,000 miles. It's now at 24,000 and was gradually getting worse. The noises weren't immediately obvious from cold but once warmed up properly you could clearly hear that something was amiss when disengaging the clutch, particularly when the engine was under load. For example when reversing fairly quickly and then dipping the clutch you could hear a metallic slapping sound which is what led me to believe that it may be the clutch linkage. The difficulty in engaging 1st and 2nd also became more pronounced after driving the car for a couple of hundred miles. Don't get me wrong though, I wasn't fighting with the gearlever trying to force it into gear, it was just more notchy than usual.

 

[SittingBull]

Behave yourself Bull, you are a boring fecker.

The problem first manifested itself at 22,000 miles. It's now at 24,000 and was gradually getting worse. The noises weren't immediately obvious from cold but once warmed up properly you could clearly hear that something was amiss when disengaging the clutch, particularly when the engine was under load. For example when reversing fairly quickly and then dipping the clutch you could hear a metallic slapping sound which is what led me to believe that it may be the clutch linkage. The difficulty in engaging 1st and 2nd also became more pronounced after driving the car for a couple of hundred miles. Don't get me wrong though, I wasn't fighting with the gearlever trying to force it into gear, it was just more notchy than usual.

That will be the relatively cheap clutch "thrust bearing" then. About £15 quid for the part - but over £1500 for your "friendly local BMW dealer" to seperate the engine/gearbox & fit it....

I despair at you young men who can't/won't lift a bloody spanner & save yourselves thousands of pounds!!! The good old credit card is so easy - until you have to pay it off. When I started driving & modifying cars in the 1970's we accepted that if something went wrong we had to repair it ourselves! Quite simply because the dealer/local garage would charge over 1000% (Yes - one thousand percent) of the parts costs.

I don't have much sympathy for you, nor many others on this forum. If your car costs you a bloody fortune then that is down to total ignorance & a total lack of knowledge of basic mechanics!!

I'll sign out now, never to return to these pathetic forums inhabited by the likes of you. :thumbsdown:

 

[dgm]

Another thread hijacked. If only you would keep your promise. Now run off to your imaginery 123d which replaced your imaginery Z4M which in turn replaced your imaginery previous performance car collection. Your young man jibe which you like to use so often doesn't apply here I'm afraid. You are the worst example of a keyboard warrior I've come across and if that's how you get your kicks I would suggest a visit to a psychiatrist is in order.

 

[Great Pretender]

Another thread hijacked. If only you would keep your promise. Now run off to your imaginery 123d which replaced your imaginery Z4M which in turn replaced your imaginery previous performance car collection. Your young man jibe which you like to use so often doesn't apply here I'm afraid. You are the worst example of a keyboard warrior I've come across and if that's how you get your kicks I would suggest a visit to a psychiatrist is in order.

I think he should get himself a 335d (mapped). He'd fit in marvelously on the corresponding fora.

Either that, or play with the traffic.

 

[Darren M]

I don't have much sympathy for you, nor many others on this forum. If your car costs you a bloody fortune then that is down to total ignorance & a total lack of knowledge of basic mechanics!!

I'll sign out now, never to return to these pathetic forums inhabited by the likes of you. :thumbsdown:

:tumbleweed:
See you again tomorrow SIttingBull
Because he seems to be trying extra hard today to wind people up/pi$$ them off, maybe it`s his last outburst before leaving for good
I find it interesting SittingBull repeats himself......"that is down to total ignorance & a total lack of knowledge of basic mechanics!! ". Reminds me a bit like the Uncle Albert fella from Only fools and Horses - think that`ll have to be his nickname now. "During the war" or "Back in my day"

Also interesting is that fact that they delete their own posts if someone has a little fun with them, obviosuly enjoys dishing it out but can`t take it themselves.

SittingBull I nean Uncle Albert picture

 

[stufarri]

I'm relatively new on here but who is this total w***er? Is he for real or is it someone acting like a cock for a laugh?

 

[cj10jeeper]

As a mod I enjoy it to see you guys dish out the treatment back and tell it how it is.

If only he would keep to his promises to go away oke:

 

[klarky]

id like to know how you expect everyone to know how to remove a gearbox/clutch and also have the space/tools to do the job? i know i wouldnt as i dont have the tools and have no other form of transport so if the car is off the road its costing me money as i cant get to work!

i agree people should get their hands dirty and do minor jobs they feel confident they can handle such as brake changes, oil & filter changes and so on, but drive train / major engine stuff im sure 90% of people would leave to a professional.

also if people want to throw their money at dealers so be it, they earn it. i suppose they have peace of mind that if it goes wrong the comeback is on the dealer rather than themselves.

 

[Z4coupebeaver]

I'm not sure if he does it just for attention but he gives a bit of colour to the forum.

My intention is to do as much of the maintenance on my MC as possible. When it comes to clutch time, it won't be going into the dealer that is for sure, although I dread to think how heavy that gearbox is.

From what I've seen so far, the M is more DIY friendly than a 3.0Si.

Having said that, if you've got a car that you need to use daily and you have to go to work, when do you get chance to fix it?

 

[Mikey]

I'll sign out now, never to return to these pathetic forums inhabited by the likes of you.

Promises, promises! Sorry, what does he call himself again oh yeah, "Sitting Bullshitter".

 

[ali_b]

Sorry to hijack but Kelly (KDS - Detalier) on PH recently put together some of Sittingbull / Nick Croft / Mikez328 / phantom56 / whateverhesignsonwithtomorrow best lines, its like a seasons review :

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=181&t=753142&mid=0&nmt=Detailers

Also check out is divorce advice on the PH lounge : http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=668540&hw=Mikez328&nmt=Urgent%20Help%20-%20Divorce%20related?

Im sure he'll be along soon to put me straight, but in the meantime, his very own smiley : :tumbleweed:

Dont ban him, its too much :lol:

 

[Darren M]

Sorry to hijack but Kelly (KDS - Detalier) on PH recently put together some of Sittingbull / Nick Croft / Mikez328 / phantom56 / whateverhesignsonwithtomorrow best lines, its like a seasons review :

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=181&t=753142&mid=0&nmt=Detailers

Also check out is divorce advice on the PH lounge : http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=668540&hw=Mikez328&nmt=Urgent%20Help%20-%20Divorce%20related?

Im sure he'll be along soon to put me straight, but in the meantime, his very own smiley : :tumbleweed:

Dont ban him, its too much :lol:

Just grabbed a bag of popcorn and a Chianti and had a read of some of that stuff - that`s good shi* . It is so obvious why he is so bitter now and also confirms some of my thoughts, for example, some time ago when he seemed to have a go at one of the female forum members - bit of a woman hater.

About the CSA. Sorry SB, one of the problems these days is folks get it on, produce some bastard pain in the arse kids, get divorced and expect the tax payers to foot the bill. You selected your wife, you chose to have kids. In most cases the kids stay with their mom and it`s only fair that the main earner pays a LOT towards the upbringing of the kids, NOT the taxpayer. I don`t care what your or your wife did, the fact is you chose to marry her and produce children. You made a bad choice, you paid for your mistakes and I`m all for the CSA getting every penny they can out of stupid people to fund the upbringing of their little tosspot kids who no doubt have turned into yobbo`s roaming the streets, snorting drugs and being a pain in the arse to society because their parents were stupid. YOu and your wife failed your children, have let them down. Every child deserves a loving family, a natural mother and father.

I find it quite amazing to hear the husband and wife stories, how they met etc. In most cases I never really see a story of true love and that`s one reason 33% or whatever it is % of marriages end in divorce. It`s more like "met this bird, she was alright, we got married and had children". Dare I say it but guys are stuupppid when it comes to women.

Interesting also to note SB worked with the Foreign and Commonwealth Office on a contractual basis. SB, as you are someone who hates bankers and the bank bailouts etc I`ll just say that Civil Service contractors are also known for sometimes earning waaaayyyy tooooooooo much ££££££ and can be seen as ripping off the tax payer. You seem to hate bankers so maybe.......

If anyone other than SB doesn`t like this post, maybe I`m serious, or maybe I`m just having a laarrrrf
But SB, don`t be so bitter. Life can be harsh and there are many lessons to learn but must be completely moved on from.

 

[Wondermike]

Also check out is divorce advice on the PH lounge : http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=668540&hw=Mikez328&nmt=Urgent%20Help%20-%20Divorce%20related?

...you are an ill-mannered moronic cocktard...I'm glad you've had a miserable fifteen years, so why don't you do us all a favour and fu-ck off.

:rofl:

 

[Andy]

interesting the gearbox is being replaced after 25k.

mine's now struggling regularly to go into 1st.. will keep an eye.