Buying a Z4 M

[Atom1]

Hi All, a returning member here.

I've being away from this forum for a good 18months, a few cars later and full of excitement I'm looking to return to Z4 ownership.

I have to say I have missed this forum as the chat and people are perhaps the best on the net, so a big thumbs up!

I have the opportunity to buy a Z4 M Coupe, 56 plate, 75k on the clock, black with red leather.

Just want to get some thoughts on how much I should be paying for this car, it's a private sale so no warranty and any potential problems/issues I should look out for?

Thanks in advance.

A

 

[LostBoy_84]

Welcome
If its in top notch condition with full BMW or specialist history I'd say around 15k in the current market for a private sale.

 

[StevenH72]

Welcome
If its in top notch condition with full BMW or specialist history I'd say around 15k in the current market for a private sale.

That sounds about right, depends heavily on spec and maintenance history though. Additional details will really help us.

 

[ZermattV]

I keep on eye on pistonheads prices on here - here is the prices since you have been away...

Week 8 2014 -

Roadster 9 Cars Avge Asking Price 13995 Avge Mileage 42120
Coupe 10 Cars Avge Asking Price 18231 Avge Mileage 37262


Week 12 2014

Roadster 7 Cars Avge Asking Price 14328 Avge Mileage 34500 - Med price 13000 Med Miles 37000
Coupe 16 Cars Avge Asking Price 18379.5 Avge Mileage 37831- Med Price 18497.5 Med Miles 33375



week 8 Coupe Tax 4236 pounds Week 8 Coupe Factor 1.3 - yep that's right a whopping 30% !!!

Week 12 Coupe Tax 4051.56 Week 12 Coupe Factor 1.28 on the average almost 5.5k on the mean


Week 19 2014

Roadster 11 Cars Avge Asking Price 15775 Avge Mileage 44228 - Med price 15000 Med Miles 47000
Coupe 18 Cars Avge Asking Price 18231 Avge Mileage 48425- Med Price 18495 Med Miles 51406

Week 19 Coupe Tax 2174 Week 19 Coupe Factor 1.14 ....... Those Roadsters are coming back

Week 4 2015

Roadster 9Cars Avge Asking Price 14481 Avge Mileage 50831.3 - Med price 14995 Med Miles 44900
Coupe 12 Cars Avge Asking Price 18432 Avge Mileage 44223- Med Price 16995 Med Miles 51000


hope this helps

 

[Darren M]

£14k I think. A forum member only a month or so ago picked up a 2008 plate car(I think 2008) with 77k miles on it for £14.5k and one previous owner - bought from a BMW dealer with warranty and road tax. Granted his timing was just right
BUt if the car is right for you then........

 

[Atom1]

That's some fantastic help guys, thank you very much.

I'm seeing the car Monday so will check the service history and speck.

Any mechanical issues or such like I should watch out for?

 

[Darren M]

Broken rear springs firstly! Owned two coupes and replaced three springs in total.
Discs for wear and occasionally a caliper can start seizing which can sc*w a front pair. Don't think it's a common issue but had an issue with mine and by the time I realised the discs were already buggered
Check underside of rear hatch - under the hatch itself. It can start corroding but still covered under the 10 year body warranty
Think a search may reveal a checklist of general Z4 issues (buyers guide).

 

[Atom1]

Broken rear springs firstly! Owned two coupes and replaced three springs in total.
Discs for wear and occasionally a caliper can start seizing which can sc*w a front pair. Don't think it's a common issue but had an issue with mine and by the time I realised the discs were already buggered
Check underside of rear hatch - under the hatch itself. It can start corroding but still covered under the 10 year body warranty
Think a search may reveal a checklist of general Z4 issues (buyers guide).

Thanks and will do, much appreciated.

 

[mr wilks]

I keep on eye on pistonheads prices on here - here is the prices since you have been away...

Week 8 2014 -

Roadster 9 Cars Avge Asking Price 13995 Avge Mileage 42120
Coupe 10 Cars Avge Asking Price 18231 Avge Mileage 37262


Week 12 2014

Roadster 7 Cars Avge Asking Price 14328 Avge Mileage 34500 - Med price 13000 Med Miles 37000
Coupe 16 Cars Avge Asking Price 18379.5 Avge Mileage 37831- Med Price 18497.5 Med Miles 33375



week 8 Coupe Tax 4236 pounds Week 8 Coupe Factor 1.3 - yep that's right a whopping 30% !!!

Week 12 Coupe Tax 4051.56 Week 12 Coupe Factor 1.28 on the average almost 5.5k on the mean


Week 19 2014

Roadster 11 Cars Avge Asking Price 15775 Avge Mileage 44228 - Med price 15000 Med Miles 47000
Coupe 18 Cars Avge Asking Price 18231 Avge Mileage 48425- Med Price 18495 Med Miles 51406

Week 19 Coupe Tax 2174 Week 19 Coupe Factor 1.14 ....... Those Roadsters are coming back

Week 4 2015

Roadster 9Cars Avge Asking Price 14481 Avge Mileage 50831.3 - Med price 14995 Med Miles 44900
Coupe 12 Cars Avge Asking Price 18432 Avge Mileage 44223- Med Price 16995 Med Miles 51000


hope this helps

Id like to see the figures for actual sale prices which would then give a more definitive outlook on true values :wink:

 

[ncrossy1980]

In addition to the above, you might want to take a look at the 'M Market Watch' thread on here, a lot of the adverts linked will now be taken down but you'll be able to see people talking about prices etc.
I picked up my M about 2 weeks ago, from a non-BMW franchised dealer (Evans Halshaw), 64k miles (high for this type of car but v v low for the year), 2006, FSH and statutory warranty, for the princely sum of £11.7k.
The coupe is commanding higher prices at the moment though, and possibly always has done and will do.

 

[no fit state]

I'm looking at getting back into a Zed also and have spent the last month or so following prices. With 75k miles I' d expect the car to be advertised privately at around £14k.

 

[StevenH72]

I keep on eye on pistonheads prices on here - here is the prices since you have been away...

Week 8 2014 -

Roadster 9 Cars Avge Asking Price 13995 Avge Mileage 42120
Coupe 10 Cars Avge Asking Price 18231 Avge Mileage 37262


Week 12 2014

Roadster 7 Cars Avge Asking Price 14328 Avge Mileage 34500 - Med price 13000 Med Miles 37000
Coupe 16 Cars Avge Asking Price 18379.5 Avge Mileage 37831- Med Price 18497.5 Med Miles 33375



week 8 Coupe Tax 4236 pounds Week 8 Coupe Factor 1.3 - yep that's right a whopping 30% !!!

Week 12 Coupe Tax 4051.56 Week 12 Coupe Factor 1.28 on the average almost 5.5k on the mean


Week 19 2014

Roadster 11 Cars Avge Asking Price 15775 Avge Mileage 44228 - Med price 15000 Med Miles 47000
Coupe 18 Cars Avge Asking Price 18231 Avge Mileage 48425- Med Price 18495 Med Miles 51406

Week 19 Coupe Tax 2174 Week 19 Coupe Factor 1.14 ....... Those Roadsters are coming back

Week 4 2015

Roadster 9Cars Avge Asking Price 14481 Avge Mileage 50831.3 - Med price 14995 Med Miles 44900
Coupe 12 Cars Avge Asking Price 18432 Avge Mileage 44223- Med Price 16995 Med Miles 51000


hope this helps

Id like to see the figures for actual sale prices which would then give a more definitive outlook on true values :wink:

But that would be true for all figures....ever. Still comparing like for like.

 

[original guvnor]

I'd probably knock about £1k off to arrive at a realistic assessment of selling price. Likely to be at least that on a dealer car and a bit less on a private sale? Difficult to be specific because it depends on so many factors doesn't it?

 

[Darren M]

I think one person on here got £3k off of a dealer car recently. I'm sure it was up for £22,850 and they said they paid <£20k but >£20k with shortfall insurance added on. I've definately never had less than £1k off dealer car and I've usually gone for competively priced cars to start with.

 

[LostBoy_84]

I keep on eye on pistonheads prices on here - here is the prices since you have been away...

Week 8 2014 -

Roadster 9 Cars Avge Asking Price 13995 Avge Mileage 42120
Coupe 10 Cars Avge Asking Price 18231 Avge Mileage 37262


Week 12 2014

Roadster 7 Cars Avge Asking Price 14328 Avge Mileage 34500 - Med price 13000 Med Miles 37000
Coupe 16 Cars Avge Asking Price 18379.5 Avge Mileage 37831- Med Price 18497.5 Med Miles 33375

week 8 Coupe Tax 4236 pounds Week 8 Coupe Factor 1.3 - yep that's right a whopping 30% !!!

Week 12 Coupe Tax 4051.56 Week 12 Coupe Factor 1.28 on the average almost 5.5k on the mean


Week 19 2014

Roadster 11 Cars Avge Asking Price 15775 Avge Mileage 44228 - Med price 15000 Med Miles 47000
Coupe 18 Cars Avge Asking Price 18231 Avge Mileage 48425- Med Price 18495 Med Miles 51406

Week 19 Coupe Tax 2174 Week 19 Coupe Factor 1.14 ....... Those Roadsters are coming back

Week 4 2015

Roadster 9Cars Avge Asking Price 14481 Avge Mileage 50831.3 - Med price 14995 Med Miles 44900
Coupe 12 Cars Avge Asking Price 18432 Avge Mileage 44223- Med Price 16995 Med Miles 51000


hope this helps

Good useful data!
Do you take your figures from the Z4MC/R categories only or do you also take into account the ones incorrectly listed under the non- ///M categories.
It amazes me how many adverts get listed in the wrong place. Currently there are 12 cars for sale under Z4M Roadster, 7 of which are MC's :roll:

 

[LostBoy_84]

I think one person on here got £3k off of a dealer car recently. I'm sure it was up for £22,850 and they said they paid <£20k but >£20k with shortfall insurance added on. I've definately never had less than £1k off dealer car and I've usually gone for competively priced cars to start with.

If it's the one I'm thinking of, didn't he know someone who worked for Sytner who helped him get a better deal?

 

[ZermattV]

Dealer pricing can vary - different marque but the two main UK dealers for Land rovers used to have a totally different pricing strategy on sticker price vs deal price . Guy Salmon ( Sytner) would price high and Stratstone price low ... but as you negotiated you could always get a lot more out of Guy salmon than stratstone so i would find on like for like cars they would converge on price .

So I see Mr Wilks point - but the data is harder to come by - there is the what did you buy yours for thread on here which gives some idea.

Perhaps we should run a poll - asking versus paid price and then publish the mean in threds like the price index .

 

[Bing]

In addition to the above, you might want to take a look at the 'M Market Watch' thread on here, a lot of the adverts linked will now be taken down but you'll be able to see people talking about prices etc.
I picked up my M about 2 weeks ago, from a non-BMW franchised dealer (Evans Halshaw), 64k miles (high for this type of car but v v low for the year), 2006, FSH and statutory warranty, for the princely sum of £11.7k.
The coupe is commanding higher prices at the moment though, and possibly always has done and will do.

Yeah, but you paid £2k to clean the engine bay :lol:

 

[Darren M]

It amazes me how many adverts get listed in the wrong place. Currently there are 12 cars for sale under Z4M Roadster, 7 of which are MC's :roll:

I think it's sometimes done intentionally to increase views or something, or some just don't know .
I received a personalised video of a Z4 M recently and the dealer called it a Z3 M Coupe. I would share it for a laugh if it didn't contain my full name . Probalby just a verbal mistake but also didn't show me the underside of the hatch I wanted to know about and instead showed the boot area on main body of the vehicle (the part that doesnt rust).

 

[LostBoy_84]

It amazes me how many adverts get listed in the wrong place. Currently there are 12 cars for sale under Z4M Roadster, 7 of which are MC's :roll:

I think it's sometimes done intentionally to increase views or something, or some just don't know .
I received a personalised video of a Z4 M recently and the dealer called it a Z3 M Coupe. I would share it for a laugh if it didn't contain my full name . Probalby just a verbal mistake but also didn't show me the underside of the hatch I wanted to know about and instead showed the boot area on main body of the vehicle (the part that doesnt rust).

I did think it may be some kind of marketing strategy, I've noticed the BMW main dealers list their Z4M's in the non ///M category but will sometimes switch them for a few days.