MS_Z4M said:
Mr Tidy - You are selling me on the Silver Grey. And can always swap out the Imola Red in time.
Tom - I have been milling putting a Wanted thread but with the previously mentioned yips and not being able to quite nail down the 'big stuff' i.e. Colour/interior I have not yet. Thought asking for either of the two Space Grey beauties might have seemed a bit cheeky.
That being said, this one on AT has been on my watchlist, the details reads like the seller knows a bit about what they are talking about.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202402236856952
MOT history is a little spotty though. It just failed in and retested last month.
(https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/results?registration=YE56+OPR&checkRecalls=true)
I think it has been for sale for longer than 12 months. I did look at this as an option for me ages ago, there has been a lot done since I looked. The vanos bearings and B12 kit wasnt on it when I looked at it.
This car is pretty much everything I mentioned in my post above. Everything done but the price is higher because of it.
Price, it is on the high side but as I mentioned, it has all of the big jobs done, £1200 for bearings and £1000 for the vanos and its had the engine mounts done, maybe another 3-400. Things that should last the cars for many years and miles. Its also in a great place, 6mm tyres, sounds like it has a B12 kit on it which is roughly £1500 fitted, Eventuri air intake.... another £4-500. Say the car is worth 18-20k without these elements. Loads of cars for sale in this age and milage for that price. Roughly 5ks worth of spend on any other Mcoupe without, if you look at the market its pretty much the only one with these elements done.
As a new buyer with a car of that milage and age I would want to do most of that. Vanos would be the only thing I probably wouldnt have done unless it needed it but its done so one less thing to worry about.
Kind of my rhetoric earlier where you can spend a lot really quickly and all these are done. Ready to go.
People seem to negotiate these into buying a car when they dont have it done, then its expensive when its done!?? Cant quite work out peoples opinions on these cars.
The question is car with 70k with all the elements done or a lower milage one that is more expensive then then still needs the some spend because it has sat around?
On the MOT. Would be lovely for every year to be a pass its a 20 year old car, nearly. Sounds like the kit has just been installed, maybe by him bit of teething issues. Two dust covers isnt really anything to worry about and has been rectified. 2017 was the last time it failed, 8 years ago. The brake pipe element isnt great but it must have been sorted as the advisory disappears in 2021.
The bearing picture also summarises my thoughts on the replacement. If those were done at 71k... the rhetoric on the other thread on the 20k miles car is they needed doing. They look in pretty good condition, but job done.
Nice thing is there are a couple of things still to do if your into it, as i mentioned, the steering wheel has worn and needs some TLC. Next thing would be to check the paintwork as mine has done 80 its looks good but its not showroom so depends where you land, driver, show car, garage queen. Mine is super presentable but also like the fact I can drive it and not be anxious about stone ships etc
Things im not keen on, personal choice but I wouldn't want replica CSLs on a M coupe. Replicas are often heavier than OE wheels and the worst place you can add weight, increasing centrifugal force. Affects handling, speed, feel etc. Defeats the point of buying these cars imo. I would have preferred the 224s so to me these dont add value. I am picky, dont mean to offend anyone, that's my thoughts. A set of real CSL wheels are 3.5k tho so take that as it is. 224s for me over replica CSLs.
I did mention service history and that you cant do anythign about it but this is a good example where in 2019 apparently it had an oil, insp1, insp2 all at the same time. This would be something I would look into as it had just had an INSII just looks like they have ticked the boxes the invoice will tell. The gearbox and diff oil should have been done with the INSPII so technically those are over-serviced. 17/19 weren't done by specialists but they were oil services so as long as the right parts were used then no worries. Check paperwork and confirm.
What I would do is check where all the work was done and just check they are the right people. The only thing that is missing is when the disks were last done. Technically, they should have been done around the 60-70k mark so thats something I would check to ensure an unexpected cost. No MOT advisory for the disks so probably been done. The last service was in 22 on the images. It does say in the copy 71k oil done so maybe the images haven't been updated.
To me looks like a lovely car, great spec, nice mods and all the service elements, including stuff not in the service schedule like the bearings, vanos and engine mounts.
the right car never aligned but like mentioned, its hard and you could be waiting a little while. Many buy and when "the one" comes up move their current car on and buy. There are a lot of members that have had 1-2-3 cars but there are also some that are in the 10+ category! They do get under your skin.