Bmw Z4M Roadster. Saphire black for sale.
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Scubaregs said:
The OP logged in tonight. They are still reading this thread.
A few simple questions should not cause the level of defensiveness that it did. That made me even more suspicious.
I think when you're selling a car you have to display the registration plate. That worms out a lot of poor cars before things progress further. I know cloning is a minor issue, but if someone hides the plate it is usually to conceal a poor history. People on this forum would likely know the car.
I still think that service history looks very suspect. 11 owners, but only 2 owners had the majority of services done at the same high end garage over a long period. Then no receipts to back that up although they kept the earlier receipts.
Also although the pen, signature and handwriting is the same every year, the entry for all the additional work in 2020 is different.
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Beerman said:
Don't think there was anything untoward TBH. Just the seller didn't like that the forum wouldn't play to his rules so threw his toys out in protest. Never mind....move on.
Always makes me smile when people post "moderators please remove this thread, as I can't deal with these idiots" kind of thing. The mods (thankfully) never do.
Luckily the mods on here are not over zealous and are Z4 enthusiasts themselves. So many forums have mods who want to 'make their name' by ruling with a rod of iron. This has not been the case on here, certainly since I joined, and presumably long before. I think that is part of the reason why it is still so popular. Self-policing seems to work very well.
Pondrew said:Beerman said:
Don't think there was anything untoward TBH. Just the seller didn't like that the forum wouldn't play to his rules so threw his toys out in protest. Never mind....move on.
Always makes me smile when people post "moderators please remove this thread, as I can't deal with these idiots" kind of thing. The mods (thankfully) never do.
Luckily the mods on here are not over zealous and are Z4 enthusiasts themselves. So many forums have mods who want to 'make their name' by ruling with a rod of iron. This has not been the case on here, certainly since I joined, and presumably long before. I think that is part of the reason why it is still so popular. Self-policing seems to work very well.
I still think the service history is suspect. 11 owners, but only 2 over all those services at the same high end garage. Kept receipts from early services, but not from the high end garage when regular servicing was happening. The writing listing additional work on the 2020 service is a different handwriting and pen.
The car is cheap, but it feels cheap for a reason. It was on Gumtree, here and AutoTrader. It has been on sale for a couple of weeks and nobody has grabbed the bargain yet. Something is putting buyers off.
Beerman said:Pondrew said:Beerman said:
Don't think there was anything untoward TBH. Just the seller didn't like that the forum wouldn't play to his rules so threw his toys out in protest. Never mind....move on.
Always makes me smile when people post "moderators please remove this thread, as I can't deal with these idiots" kind of thing. The mods (thankfully) never do.
Luckily the mods on here are not over zealous and are Z4 enthusiasts themselves. So many forums have mods who want to 'make their name' by ruling with a rod of iron. This has not been the case on here, certainly since I joined, and presumably long before. I think that is part of the reason why it is still so popular. Self-policing seems to work very well.
I still think the service history is suspect. 11 owners, but only 2 over all those services at the same high end garage. Kept receipts from early services, but not from the high end garage when regular servicing was happening. The writing listing additional work on the 2020 service is a different handwriting and pen.
The car is cheap, but it feels cheap for a reason. It was on Gumtree, here and AutoTrader. It has been on sale for a couple of weeks and nobody has grabbed the bargain yet. Something is putting buyers off.
Jesus, Gumtree, must be desperate. If he didn’t like some of the comments on here he’s going to have fun with the responses on there :lol:
It was Cheap...ish but not the cheapest that has ever been like the OP suggested. I've been reading the thread and feel the car is probably genuinely for sale.
But as a seller, why would you cover up the registration? The first thing prospective buyers would want to do is check the MOT history. It would also help the sell to post answers to questions here to save having to send the same replies over and over again by PM.
The seller was also overly defensive and rude to legitimate questions.
From the photos, the car looks ok. Does the advert even state where the car is located ? If we knew where it was, a forum member could take a look and post their thoughts.
But as a seller, why would you cover up the registration? The first thing prospective buyers would want to do is check the MOT history. It would also help the sell to post answers to questions here to save having to send the same replies over and over again by PM.
The seller was also overly defensive and rude to legitimate questions.
From the photos, the car looks ok. Does the advert even state where the car is located ? If we knew where it was, a forum member could take a look and post their thoughts.
This is what I think
OP bought the car without doing enough homework on what had been done to the car just standard service is not enough at this age and milage.
He found out that the car would need a fair bit doing to it to bring it up to top spec
i.e. Vanos service
rod bearings
diff service
full suspension refresh dampers springs and all bushes
Then the cost of service items brake discs etc
He had a reality check and decided to cut free before any of the above cost big and all of the above are going to be required to be done given the age and mileage sooner or latter
I believe if the above was clear and transparent there would have been a few interested people if you all remember there was a M coupe with a blown or non running engine for £7,000 an engine rebuild by JC Racing is around £7,000 so this was a break even at the time as running M coups where around £14,000 and Mike from the Zed shed bought it so will do most of the work himself
When I bought my Z4MR it had limited service history but it had been well cared for it too was probably one of the cheapest Z4MR's at the time and had been for sale at a garage for a long time. So over 2 winters I have sorted out all of the above and loads more and completed most of the work myself.
OP bought the car without doing enough homework on what had been done to the car just standard service is not enough at this age and milage.
He found out that the car would need a fair bit doing to it to bring it up to top spec
i.e. Vanos service
rod bearings
diff service
full suspension refresh dampers springs and all bushes
Then the cost of service items brake discs etc
He had a reality check and decided to cut free before any of the above cost big and all of the above are going to be required to be done given the age and mileage sooner or latter
I believe if the above was clear and transparent there would have been a few interested people if you all remember there was a M coupe with a blown or non running engine for £7,000 an engine rebuild by JC Racing is around £7,000 so this was a break even at the time as running M coups where around £14,000 and Mike from the Zed shed bought it so will do most of the work himself
When I bought my Z4MR it had limited service history but it had been well cared for it too was probably one of the cheapest Z4MR's at the time and had been for sale at a garage for a long time. So over 2 winters I have sorted out all of the above and loads more and completed most of the work myself.
The registration plate of the car is EA06 GSU. I'm sure some of the previous 11 owners will be on here.
The MOT in 2020 was done after the service, but the mileage is lower. The services in 2022 and 2023 have the same mileage as the MOT. It doesn't look like the garage does MOT tests.
At least three owners have all used the same garage according to the service book. It's a Ferrari and Lamborghini specialist.
The MOT in 2020 was done after the service, but the mileage is lower. The services in 2022 and 2023 have the same mileage as the MOT. It doesn't look like the garage does MOT tests.
At least three owners have all used the same garage according to the service book. It's a Ferrari and Lamborghini specialist.
Why are you so obsessed with this car? If you like it phone the guy and have a chat.
If you want to find fault in one try this:
https://www.facebook.com/share/hnhnvFZcJy5825FH/?mibextid=79PoIi
The owner tells me it had light damage a new front bumper, light and wing. The Copart photos tell a different story.
If you want to find fault in one try this:
https://www.facebook.com/share/hnhnvFZcJy5825FH/?mibextid=79PoIi
The owner tells me it had light damage a new front bumper, light and wing. The Copart photos tell a different story.