Atacama Yellow 35is build thread
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Scottish Borders
B21 said:
I got the female connector and blue cover part from BMW. The red distribution board, isn’t it just that a distribution board? Didn’t think it was fused.
When’s the new digital dash being fitted?
So today started on the re-furb update on the dash trim / MMI CarPlay and the digital dash…
I decided not to take the steering wheel off..but covered it as I’ve got to dremel out some of the plastic to accommodate the rectangular display unit..
Got to add some extra pins and cables for the blind spot monitoring and the reverse camera..plus the boost sensor..which I’ve agreed to work with ID4Motion in developing a kit / write up..
The CIC unit is getting a new cold state disc to hopefully address a re-booting issue..
I decided not to take the steering wheel off..but covered it as I’ve got to dremel out some of the plastic to accommodate the rectangular display unit..
Got to add some extra pins and cables for the blind spot monitoring and the reverse camera..plus the boost sensor..which I’ve agreed to work with ID4Motion in developing a kit / write up..
The CIC unit is getting a new cold state disc to hopefully address a re-booting issue..
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As part of the overhaul /update I'm fitting a new solid state disc to replace the conventional hard disc that's fitted into every CIC radio /multimedia system on E90s of that vintage.
My CIC / sat nav keeps rebooting often for anywhere between an hour and 5 hours..usually when its been left outside and its got cold and damp..usually on a run when I really really need the system to work.
No one has come up with a cogent analysis and/or fix.
Some gurus think its caused by the hDD starting to fail, then the core O/S decides it can't see the required data so re-boots.
I could replace it with another HDD but thought a SSD was more reliable and should be faster..useful when scrolling / zooming on the OE map.
If or when the disc fails you are up s**t creek as tryig to get a replacement is a major major technical issue.
So a pre-emptive attempt to sort it out made sense.
I did think I would have to do a full strip of the box..but it turns out that BMW made and access port...undoing two small torx screws (yes one rounded) allow the carrier with the HDD to be pulled out.
The trick / issue is that BMW used wome weird s**t dialect of Unix to run the system / make the file structure.
So if you try and read the disc with say Windows it ain't going to happen.
To copy it you need a program that will do a bit for bit or techically a sector for sector copy..it doesn't care what is there..it simply copies everything verbatim.
After trying 5 'free' products I came across one Hard Disk Manager 17 which for £75 actually works..
So i've used a USB to IDE adaptor to plus the old hard disk into my desik top pc..using this s/w copied the image of the HDD onto a 128gb USB stick..now when my new SDD arrives shortly I can copy the USB contents to the new 128gb SSD and if it all wroks, plug it into the CIC and voila..no re-boots and much faster map action..here's hoping!
My CIC / sat nav keeps rebooting often for anywhere between an hour and 5 hours..usually when its been left outside and its got cold and damp..usually on a run when I really really need the system to work.
No one has come up with a cogent analysis and/or fix.
Some gurus think its caused by the hDD starting to fail, then the core O/S decides it can't see the required data so re-boots.
I could replace it with another HDD but thought a SSD was more reliable and should be faster..useful when scrolling / zooming on the OE map.
If or when the disc fails you are up s**t creek as tryig to get a replacement is a major major technical issue.
So a pre-emptive attempt to sort it out made sense.
I did think I would have to do a full strip of the box..but it turns out that BMW made and access port...undoing two small torx screws (yes one rounded) allow the carrier with the HDD to be pulled out.
The trick / issue is that BMW used wome weird s**t dialect of Unix to run the system / make the file structure.
So if you try and read the disc with say Windows it ain't going to happen.
To copy it you need a program that will do a bit for bit or techically a sector for sector copy..it doesn't care what is there..it simply copies everything verbatim.
After trying 5 'free' products I came across one Hard Disk Manager 17 which for £75 actually works..
So i've used a USB to IDE adaptor to plus the old hard disk into my desik top pc..using this s/w copied the image of the HDD onto a 128gb USB stick..now when my new SDD arrives shortly I can copy the USB contents to the new 128gb SSD and if it all wroks, plug it into the CIC and voila..no re-boots and much faster map action..here's hoping!
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As stated I'm actiing as Guinea pig for ID4 Motion setting up a build kit so the digital cluster can show boost as one of its 'dials'...
Actually for the N54 cars it would be a lot easier to tack int the CAN bus and pick that data up..but ID4 want a generic solution for all BMWs.
So their plan is to take an off the shelf boost sensor and then send the data from it directly to the ID4 cluster.
It means I'll have to drill a hole into the manfold somewhre and run a pipe across to this boost senor before it sends the dat to the cluster.
In parallel to this. I've got to plud the radar units for blind spot detection in..similar issues apply..so that's a few extra pins to put into he 36 way connector into the back of the cluster..not abig fan of pulling these connectors apart but I'm assured its all OK..
So many cables my brain hurts..
Actually for the N54 cars it would be a lot easier to tack int the CAN bus and pick that data up..but ID4 want a generic solution for all BMWs.
So their plan is to take an off the shelf boost sensor and then send the data from it directly to the ID4 cluster.
It means I'll have to drill a hole into the manfold somewhre and run a pipe across to this boost senor before it sends the dat to the cluster.
In parallel to this. I've got to plud the radar units for blind spot detection in..similar issues apply..so that's a few extra pins to put into he 36 way connector into the back of the cluster..not abig fan of pulling these connectors apart but I'm assured its all OK..
So many cables my brain hurts..
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So inching forward..
Today I put the 5 extra data pins into the ID4 Motion Kombi adapter cable…
I hate pulling apart these one time multi connectors..
I think it’s gone ok but until you power it up who knows..
Since the normal Kombi instrument panel has limited connectivity the ID4 guys plug these extra sensors for boost pressure measurement and blind spot radar feeds directly into their unit..
Used a bit of self amalgamating tape to take th4 stress out of the pins..not a lot of meat on those babies..
Found a very neat way of tapping into the boost system..arriving early new year..
Today I put the 5 extra data pins into the ID4 Motion Kombi adapter cable…
I hate pulling apart these one time multi connectors..
I think it’s gone ok but until you power it up who knows..
Since the normal Kombi instrument panel has limited connectivity the ID4 guys plug these extra sensors for boost pressure measurement and blind spot radar feeds directly into their unit..
Used a bit of self amalgamating tape to take th4 stress out of the pins..not a lot of meat on those babies..
Found a very neat way of tapping into the boost system..arriving early new year..
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I’ve now bought both a 256mb and 128mb SSD in the PATA Stone Age disc connection format.
Using the adapter I’ve now used the pc software to make 2 copies of the original hard disk on to the new SSD devices.
I’ve plugged the new 256mb SSD onto the BMW carrier tray and popped it back into the head unit..
All being well I’ll try it out later this week..
The boot up time will ram in the same as the CIC unit boots from onboard flash memory but actions involved in mapping should be a lot faster..if it works..
Major intellectual debate as how long the SSD will last as there’s a lot of stuff involved in garbage collection and wear levelling..
In my case we are just going to run it and see what happens..
Hopefully addresses the mysterious re-booting issue the car suffers from when damp / cold..
Good news I’ve saved about 15 grams of weight..should improve acceleration..
Using the adapter I’ve now used the pc software to make 2 copies of the original hard disk on to the new SSD devices.
I’ve plugged the new 256mb SSD onto the BMW carrier tray and popped it back into the head unit..
All being well I’ll try it out later this week..
The boot up time will ram in the same as the CIC unit boots from onboard flash memory but actions involved in mapping should be a lot faster..if it works..
Major intellectual debate as how long the SSD will last as there’s a lot of stuff involved in garbage collection and wear levelling..
In my case we are just going to run it and see what happens..
Hopefully addresses the mysterious re-booting issue the car suffers from when damp / cold..
Good news I’ve saved about 15 grams of weight..should improve acceleration..
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New subs installed…actually much lighter construction than the 677 subs which are much heavier than the 676 subs..
Interesting plastic pod for the subs to sit in..
I thought BMW made them sealed but these are vented into the rear bulkhead space …
Interesting plastic pod for the subs to sit in..
I thought BMW made them sealed but these are vented into the rear bulkhead space …
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Leaping around from one sub project to another..
The prospect of trying to install a new dishwasher distracted me enough to tackle the issue of how to mount the new Audiotec Fischer Match 10 DSP / amp and the required MOST gateway adapter to allow the two channel convention optical digital in for the amp to talk to the MOST BMW data link that’s used for several purposes on E89s and if you have the 677 top-fi 14 speaker system the CIC head unit..
The old 677 amp sits on the rear boot bulkhead..it has a custom made bracket to hold it in place.
After much much mastication I decided to try an re-use it for both the new DSP and the MOST to digital input bridge..
Neat job..I’ll use the tang on the original bracket to glue to the removable bracket on the amp to fully support it..result..
I discovered that I need access to the jumper pins on the MOST bridge as part of the set up ..so access was required to both sides of the MOST bridge.
First world problems.
On a side note my attempt to use the new boost sensor for the ID4 Motion meant I needed more than 1 metre of 5 bar boost pipe..only ordered a metre..so now ordered 2 metres..
The prospect of trying to install a new dishwasher distracted me enough to tackle the issue of how to mount the new Audiotec Fischer Match 10 DSP / amp and the required MOST gateway adapter to allow the two channel convention optical digital in for the amp to talk to the MOST BMW data link that’s used for several purposes on E89s and if you have the 677 top-fi 14 speaker system the CIC head unit..
The old 677 amp sits on the rear boot bulkhead..it has a custom made bracket to hold it in place.
After much much mastication I decided to try an re-use it for both the new DSP and the MOST to digital input bridge..
Neat job..I’ll use the tang on the original bracket to glue to the removable bracket on the amp to fully support it..result..
I discovered that I need access to the jumper pins on the MOST bridge as part of the set up ..so access was required to both sides of the MOST bridge.
First world problems.
On a side note my attempt to use the new boost sensor for the ID4 Motion meant I needed more than 1 metre of 5 bar boost pipe..only ordered a metre..so now ordered 2 metres..
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I wish there was a smilies for over the top of my head , my brain has gone BOOM 
Jollyjoiner said:I wish there was a smilies for over the top of my head , my brain has gone BOOM
Please look away now..as it’s going to get complicated when we get to real time analysis, time based correction, parametric equalisation and the effective use of Q and pros and cons of higher order slopes in designing high, low and bandpass filters
B21 said:Jollyjoiner said:I wish there was a smilies for over the top of my head , my brain has gone BOOM
Please look away now..as it’s going to get complicated when we get to real time analysis, time based correction, parametric equalisation and the effective use of Q and pros and cons of higher order slopes in designing high, low and bandpass filters
Blimey! Let me know when you get to fitting the blind spot monitor sensors.
Silverstar said:B21 said:Jollyjoiner said:I wish there was a smilies for over the top of my head , my brain has gone BOOM
Please look away now..as it’s going to get complicated when we get to real time analysis, time based correction, parametric equalisation and the effective use of Q and pros and cons of higher order slopes in designing high, low and bandpass filters
Blimey! Let me know when you get to fitting the blind spot monitor sensors.
Once I’ve worked how to get the rear bumper off..I think it’s relatively simple ?
